Ashley Madison “Life Is Short Have An Affair”


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The dating site Ashley Madison has been around for quite a while.  They offer dating matchups for married, engaged, in relationships etc.  They claim to have over 7 million members but reports show they only have 700,000 hits per month. Claims have also been made that a large majority of members are “fake” profiles.  They even offer an “affair guarantee.” They have flooded the market for a long time with commercials, banners and even talk shows. It’s hard to avoid knowing the name of the site.

I’m not a fan of this site. I firmly believe if your going to cheat why not be single, but maybe im old fashioned. I honestly shudder everytime I see the commercial.

What are your thoughts on this site?


113 responses to “Ashley Madison “Life Is Short Have An Affair””

  1. Lisa says:

    I’m thinking, what does this posting have to do with the theme of Smart Canucks?

  2. T says:

    Why is the site being promoted here? People shouldn’t know about it in the first place.

  3. Sally says:

    It’s not being promoted it’s being discussed.”T” unfortunately if you watch tv, or browse the net you’ve heard of Ashley Madison. If you had read my post I’m against it. Also “Lisa” we always post off topics. If you dont care to read them please skip past them.

  4. Lisa says:

    You asked, I answered, if you don’t like my comments, you’re free to skip past them as well

  5. Sally says:

    No need to be be like that 🙁

  6. Shocked says:

    Sally, actually I have NOT herad of this… site… before. Hmm, lol. And I don’t even care to click the link. I am a cheatee (or cheater… can be called the same?)… it was very good while it lasted, but I see and very much LIVE with the aftermath–not cool!! 🙂

  7. Shocked says:

    And I don’t think one knows they will or PLANS to cheat. A lot goes into why people cheat. And a lot goes into why people don’t. 🙂

  8. T says:

    Let’s lay out the facts here: there is link to that unethical site in the blogpost, and you encouraged people to check it out…Even if you said you’re not a fan, you’re generating hits for them.

  9. Lisa says:

    I’m sorry. I might have read into your post more than you intended. I can’t tell if a post is something I don’t want to read till I’ve read it obviously. I’m all for off-topic, but that site is off-colour in my opinion and I think any discussion of it gives it more attention. I have ad block on my computer and I haven’t seen a single thing about this site, but had heard it discussed by someone once.

  10. Sally says:

    I don’t think its unethical to discuss a site that promotes cheating. We are supposed to be adults 🙂

  11. jeo220 says:

    If you look at most of the dating sites out there (eharmony, Plenty of Fish etc) there are LOTS of people who are looking to cheat on their significant others. This site appears to be a little more bold and actually encourage people to cheat. I don’t agree with it at all, but at least when you sign up for Ashley Madison, you know you are there to commit adultry – and there are no “what do you mean you are married?” moments in the future.

  12. Digi says:

    I’ve actually never heard of this….and I watch a lot of TV..weird. ._.

  13. C says:

    In defense for Sally’s post, the link does lead to a Wikipedia article and not the actual website itself. I am appalled that there is actually a website for this service, but the article itself on Wikipedia was insightful into the current trends.

  14. S says:

    I’ve never even heard of this site, it’s so sad. 🙁
    I agree with T, why are we “promoting” them by giving them hits?
    It’s almost like saying, Life is too short, go steal (insert whatever is morally wrong).

  15. Lisa says:

    C – it must have been revised because the first link did lead directly to the site.

  16. Shocked says:

    Yep, revised. It did lead to the actual site. As I would visit wiki.. to get more info. but not the actual site to get more info. 🙂

  17. Sally says:

    I had meant it to go to the wiki, as there is no actual “information” on the site itself. I click pasted the wrong link and fixed it the second I noticed it was incorrect. It’s not like I am denying it. BUT the link is right there on wikepedia. Were all adults, if someone is “planning” the cheat they are quite capable of typing in Ashley Madison themselves lol. Why can’t it be discussed? Should we just pretend it doesn’t exist with over 7 million members?

  18. April says:

    Well,

    I am an adult and I watch tv and am on the internet and I’ve never heard of this site. They are definitely getting some free advertising here!

    p.s. its disgusting and a good representation of all that is wrong with this world…..if you are unhappy and just cant stay commited leave your partner and do what you want….dont betray them. This site is soooooo wrong! PERIOD.

  19. Nicole says:

    I also don’t understand why this was posted? Is there a deal associated with it? <– NOT that I care because it’s not something of interest.

    If we’re just looking for discussion topics, couldn’t they surround what the banner of this site says: “Canada’s Largest Coupon & Shopping Deals Community”? That’s the reason I come here…

  20. Jdawg says:

    Can we at least keep them out of the RSS feed? The temptation to click them and read the comments is often too great. I remember seeing one where the poster wondered in her article if the Tim Hortons employee who had helped her was enjoying her “Canadian experience” (her words not mine.)

    These things belong in a forum not on the front page. I follow this site to save on pants.

  21. Lori says:

    I just read an article about this site in Redbook magazine. I had heard of it before but was interested in what the reporters, who went undercover, found.

    And if you don’t own/run/administer this site, you have no business telling the people that do, how to run it. You don’t walk into businesses and tell them what to carry or how to run it, do you? Quit being so fricken rude and just find another deal site to frequent. I like this site because it is different and interesting. Pretty easy to hide behind anonymity and run your mouth off about something that has absolutely nothing to do with YOU. It’s not all about YOU!!!

  22. anon says:

    I don’t mind off topics…but, I agree that the thought that more awareness is being brought to this site as a result of this blog post (see comments of people who said they never heard of it) bothers me…people will cheat regardless, but that people have created a business out of facilitating it and profit off of it is pretty disgusting…and is SC by extension unintentionally helping these people? Also, I’m not sure whether this blog post was just meant to be controversial for the sake of being controversial, was there really much expectation that people are going to have some great discussion on the pros and cons of this site? Anyways, that’s just my opinion — not attacking SC or the person that posted it.

  23. Amy says:

    While I’m okay with and generally am entertained/informed by the off-topic posts here, I too am thinking that this is a site that really doesn’t need to be provided with additional advertising, which is what this posting does.

    Like someone before me stated, the slogan “life is too short, cheat” could be applied to every morally/ethically wrong action out there (stealing/breaking the law/lying…)

    Sure, I knew about this site before this posting having read a news article some time ago about it possibly being advertised on TTC buses –> it was a scandal then, and its a scandal now.

    So no, I don’t think you’re old-fashioned. Pro-adultery outlets should never be the norm, as far as I’m concerned.

    But I don’t think this belongs here — our being adults notwithstanding.

  24. harrlett says:

    I cannot stand Ashley Madison. I am not a super religious person…but I dont believe in advertising having an affair while in a relationship of any kind. I say TO EACH THEIR OWN….but not need to advertise it…..so glad television stations took their commercials off in Canada.

    My private business is my own and even IF I EVER decided to be naughty I would never ever advertise it for the world to know. There are so many other more important issues out there. My poppa used to say pick your battles lol

  25. Lainey says:

    Personally, I think that it speaks volumes of what our society views as acceptable nowadays. It’s quite sad how much money the site generates on people that are looking to cheat.

    Sally, you’re not old fashioned, you just have morals.

  26. KittyKat says:

    This whole site has lost its mind. Sigh.

  27. Jen says:

    I’m all for monogamy but this post got me thinking. Are human beings meant to be monogamists?? I mean we are still mammals and one of the sole reasons for us being on this planet is to procreate. I’m pretty sure the cavemen back then got to spread their seeds where ever they pleased. And what about marriage? Hundreds of years ago, some people didn’t stay with or marry someone because they wanted to, but because there was something to gain such as societal status.

  28. Little LuLu says:

    Ashley Madison is ridiculous! If someone is going to cheat/have an affair..why would you pay for it when you can find someone to cheat with..for free. Just go to a bar..unless you want to find someone to cheat with who is also a cheater..and build a relationship that way?! lol Not gunna work. It sounds like a lose lose situation either way.

    If someone is going to go out of their way to cheat and have an affair, they’re going to do it with or without a site. The only thing is, if they are good at hiding it or not.

    I should mention that I have been cheated on before and it really sucks. Wouldn’t wish it upon my worst enemy!

  29. Katie says:

    But if you are to love someone why would you cheat. Love is suppose to be everything, not half not quarter, not two third. I really don’t get this whole cheating thingie.

    Someone mention POF -_-; unfortunately and fortunately I was a user on POF…the pigs I met on there are unbelievable. I dated a few guy there claim they are single but guess what? They are married! Anyhoo I am glad I met these losers, thanks to them I understand how hard it is to find a good man and how much I appreciated the honesty and faithfulness one can give. (now now not all guys are pigs on POF and I too found the love of my life there)

  30. slide says:

    With regards to “off-topic” posts, I think it’s quite easy to see if a post is not a deal and just skip it if you’re not interested in the discussion. These posts, in my opinion, foster a sense of community in smartcanucks. Yes, we’re here for deals and most of the posts here are about them but it’s nice to know what other smartcanuckers (or whatever we’re called) think about some random topic.

    As for the topic at hand, it’s certainly an interesting site. I checked it and it claimed over 6,000 “local” members online and a 100% affair guarantee – whoa *rolls eyes*. This is just some soul-sucking site that tries to squeeze cash out of lonely single guys or dumb married guys. Paying to get a 100% guaranteed affair that’s discrete sounds a lot like prostitution. Ashley Madison = pimps.

  31. Mike says:

    I have to agree with Sally; there is no reason, ethical or not, why this site cannot be discussed. Its a discussion ffs, talking about something does not make actions happen.

    However, I was under the impression that this site was about advertising deals, sales, coupons, and freebies. The logo for the site is a shopping bag! As such, a topic like this one is inappropriate for this site and is better suited in a forum dedicated to general discussions.

    Why do I get the hinting feeling that some sort of advertising is going on with this post? Whether the article links to the site or not, I still feel the author is getting some advantage to posting here so randomly.

  32. T says:

    Obviously there’s no freedom of speech here – my last post was deleted right after I posted it. I simply talked about the fact that the link was originally straightly directed to that site. I didn’t attack anyone, nor was my language inappropriate.

  33. Natalka says:

    Any coupons for the site???

  34. greenbear says:

    I often wonder why people who claim to be offened click the links in the first place. Research? the blog was very clear what it would be about. Pot stirring? um probably

    As for A.M. nah not for me, but to each their own.

  35. janice says:

    I agree..not appropriate. I love off topic, but this is a little weird. I’ve never heard of the site..nor would I want to check it out..nor does this benefit my life. I like the off topic “informative” things. This serves no purpose

  36. sally says:

    No Mike there is no kickback, it’s just a discussion. It would be a cold day in hell we’d benefit from a site like that.

    Serves no purpose? It was to discuss about the site, and how society has accepted such a site. How can a discussion about infedelity be innapropriate? It’s very relevant. A lot of us at some point of another have been the cheatee or cheated on and I was looking for different perspectives. 🙂

    Personally, I think its horrible that this has become such a profitable market. I don’t believe in cheating. If your going to be that selfish be single. There is absolutely NO NEED to hurt your partner like that.

    T, noone deleted your post, repost it.

  37. Pandora says:

    I am all for each person living life the way they want. Within reason of course. If people don’t choose to be monogamous then it’s their choice. But if that is your choice, don’t commit to one person. I understand that not everyone plans to cheat. My opinion about that is it would be based on each situation individually. Most of the time though I do not think cheating is okay.

    My Dad sought out other women online, he was looking for someone else. All the time telling my Mother he loved her. This was after she became very ill. When she eventually found out, he didn’t even tell her I did. That was the hardest thing I have ever had to do, but he put me in that position by telling me. I never said I would keep it a secret, in fact I told him that if he didn’t tell her I would. I am still angry about that. Not that he is now with someone else, but that he didn’t break it off with my Mom first.

    That being said, my Dad looked online, and didn’t use A.M. he used Pogo. He sought out an affair, so this was planned. To me that is wrong no matter what site you use.

  38. Theresa says:

    Sites like that destroy lives. The impact of cheating has far reaching consequences for generations. I agree that there was no reason to post this, unless of course you enjoy causing stirring the pot. Get back to things that honest people care about.

  39. Theresa says:

    Sites like that destroy lives. The impact of cheating has far reaching consequences for generations. I agree that there was no reason to post this, unless of course you enjoy stirring the pot. Get back to things that honest people care about.

  40. Theresa says:

    OOPS!!! Clearly didn’t mean to post that twice.

  41. dizzyb says:

    Assuming we are discussing a married person, that person made a commitment during the wedding ceremony. Traditional wedding vows state “forsaking all others”. Marriages are made with TWO people, and we’d assume that the other party is not agreeing to this behaviour. Yes, people are free to make their own decisions, but this involves a legal oath! I’d like to see this site and any like it disallowed as they promote the breaking of legal vows and produce nothing positive except for temporarily satisfying one’s hedonism (which is positive for one or two people only, but horribly negative for at least one other). But in a society of “free speech”, personal views usually trump morality, so it won’t happen.
    If we can discuss other websites on smartcanucks, why can’t AM be discussed here? Is it not a service that seeks customers? We regularly discuss great or poor customer relations of other businesses, why can’t we deliberate over whether or not this site is ethical?

  42. F says:

    I think that the site is disgusting and if I found out that my partner cheated using that site, I would blame my partner but I would also blame the site itself for promoting cheating as a valid thing to do if there are issues in your relationship. I may not succeed, but I would most definitely make an attempt to sue the company for promoting this and making cheating easier. Also I tend to agree with the person before me that stated that this sounds like prostitution so maybe I would succeed lol

  43. NightStar says:

    Oh PUL-LEASE! Like anyone here who is already debating on having an affair will say “Well since this site is posted on SmartCanucks I am going to get it out and blame it on them if I find someone else to have a fling with”

    We are ADULTS, we should take responsibility for our actions! If she thought about posting it and decided not to someone would be calling foul on censorship. Poor girl can’t win! The thing about the internet is that there is a whole slew of information out there, YOU as an adult make the choice to either click a link or not too. The whole thing about the Internet is to educate oneself (more or less) If you don’t like an article move on, if you don’t like the music on the radio change the station, if you aren’t happy with the movie playing get up and leave. No one is holding your head to the computer screen forcing you to read anything.

    Now about this site; if people want to cheat they will find a way, having a site made just for that is gross but it’s not like your spouse will have an affair on you because this site exists

  44. jayshanny says:

    Please take this whole post down. Thankyou.

  45. B777 says:

    I hear about this site every few years when it gets publicity out of nowhere, sometimes on the news, sometimes randomly like on this site.

    The entire concept is deplorable. Encouraging people to betray their partners? Have they (the cheaters or AM) even considered what would happen to their children or other members of the family?

    This is how society decays.

  46. c says:

    I had never heard of that site before. I find the concept rather disgusting, however that leaves me to wonder…Who invented that site? Was it a divorce lawyer?

  47. Broken heart says:

    Even more sickening is that there is a site where people that cheat on their spouses talk about how to get away with it? Who are these people?

    http://www.doccool.com/forum

  48. matrix82 says:

    I’ve heard of the site, there was a special on tv about it or maybe it was a web episode.

    I’ve often wondered if someone doesn’t want to be a monogamous relationship than they should not have gotten married. If you are going to cheat, and if you “love” the other person, than break up with them, divorce etc, then date whoever you want. Love does not mean the pain of cheating.

    There are other type of relationships out there such as polyamourous, find a partner that is into that.

    As for whether or not this should be posted on the blog. I don’t know, personally it is a shopping forum, and Ashley Madison is a website that you have to pay to belong to. There, a connection.

    I think that this is a hot topic and worthy of discussion. If you don’t like what is posted, than you just don’t bother to read more than the first couple sentences.

    I don’t have children, so I don’t read the postings about diaper sales, I recognize what it is and then I just scroll past it.

    I think with this people get upset, because it starts to go into a moral question, it involves peoples emotions, more so than just buying diapers would.

    Cheating happens, with the web it is easier. I know of two marriages within my family that were broken up through the internet and meeting someone else.

    I think part of what causes some marriages to break up is that from my own perspective, marriage is seen still as the next step, something you need to do, so some people rush into, without truly knowing the person they are marrying.

    Yes I am religious, but I am also practical, I think that living with someone can help to get to know the person before you marry them. With that being said you need to be prepared for things like unplanned pregnancy. I’m not even 30 yet, and I have had friends who had been married and who are now divorced, one friend was married for three months before she cheated., she had only been dating her husband 4 months before they were married.

    My own personal stance is that cheating is wrong.

    Ashley Madison is promoting a product, something that makes it easier to cheat. In my mind is it any different than say a fast food restaurant having a burger containing 1600 calories which makes it easier to gain weight. No it isn’t in my opinion. We the consumer and the human being make the choices.

    Does the site cause people to stray, yes and no. A person is going to cheat regardless. The same as, does a fast food restaurant cause someone to be obese, yes and no. A person is going to make bad food choices outside of the fast food restaurant or may have a predisposition.

    As Ashley Madison proves, the web can be a wonderful thing, but it can also be made up of broken hearts and the things nightmares are made of.

  49. Jillian says:

    I think people check this site for deals not to posy their moral and ethical thoughts on cheating. My opinion would be let’s keep itfocused on the deals! Happy saving!

  50. kelly says:

    I have never heard of this company either until now.

  51. Jo says:

    I have heard about this site on T.V, Web advertising, talk shows, other blogs. They were even going to advertise on the side of the TTC in Toronto. Im not sure if that happened , as people were upset by it.

    Its all funny to me. Peoples moral ground, judgements of others. One thing I know for certain, no website, blog site, encouragement of any kind can make a “happily” married person cheat.

    Its just another adult conversation on a blog site. As always as adults you have the choice to not participate.

    Right now i’m more concerned about which less evil i’m goin to choose to vote for. Thats where my outrage is 😉

  52. Smokezz says:

    I think this company is awesome at getting free advertising. (Not from this post btw). They put together a campaign and present it to the TTC or other big company… the media catches wind of it and next thing you know it’s a HUGE maelstrom of attention and the TTC or other entity is forced to say no.

    Meanwhile all the attention from the media has gotten them a ton of free advertising without them having to actually pay the huge amount of money for the advertising. All they had to do was put the campaign together in their marketing department. Absolute brilliance.

  53. Ray says:

    What’s with all of the hate? I happen to enjoy these discussions. Don’t listen to the haters, Sally, keep doing what you do.

  54. matrix82 says:

    I’m wondering why my post number 47 is awaiting moderation and posters after me have had their posts posted. I didn’t think I said anything offensive, or degrading etc.

  55. matrix82 says:

    Post 48 rather, sorry.

  56. anonymous says:

    I heard about this site a long time ago, when it first came out. Really I think the disgusting thing here is those who would actually use the site. That is just cold, calculated cheating. And I never did understand why people would cheat when they could just leave the person they are with. Maybe you don’t “plan” to cheat, but there has to be a moment where you wake up and realize the consequences of your actions if you do cheat. And it is foolish to believe that you won’t be found out, and the aftermath of that will be far worse then if you just left the person to begin with.

    That being said, I can’t really blame the people who founded Ashley Madison for trying to make money off of these people. It’s all about supply and demand right, and they’re just trying to make money off of a perceived “demand”. Personally, I draw the line at certain things, but some people are just about making money.

  57. Brenda says:

    I fully agree with the fact that articles off the coupon/deals topic make for interesting discussion and have always welcomed that here SmartCanucks. With that said though, I feel this post was just in extremely poor taste.

  58. Puzzled says:

    I’m a bit baffled as to what this post is supposed to encourage in the way of discussion. It boils down to how people feel about cheating versus how we feel about a site that makes it easier. Cheating is lying. Lying kills trust and thus healthy relationships. I think this website is indicative of how confused and hurt we are as a society. We’re looking for love in all the wrong places. I think Sally might have gotten responses she didn’t bargain for, but hey, bring up a sensitive subject that touches many peoples buttons and the responses are going to reflect that.

  59. Anon2 says:

    lol…if the notion was to involve people in the blog posts..:P this post worked pretty well…

    @sally and the other mods: On a serious note, I do appreciate the way you guys dont succumb to marketers at all. You guys must be the shopping community with the most hits, but so far I havent seen a single post which advertises a site other than for the deal on it. And believe me Ilove that you guys are so neutral. Oh I am putting it badly. But I hope you get what I mean.

  60. Sally says:

    Its approved now matrix82, you must of said a moderated word or something 🙂

    As for the ones that think this is in poor taste. It’s not. It’s to provoke thought, and an intellectual conversation. Matrix I very much enjoyed reading your post.

  61. Cheryl888 says:

    I have never heard of this site until now, and I think its strange that I found out about it while getting my daily fix of sales…
    If someone wants to cheat, I dont really see how a website promoting it is “wrong”. Its freedom of speech, and frankly, its FAR from the worst thing out there on the web.
    If you want to think its wrong, then why hauck it on your website? I have been frequenting smartcanucks for years, and moreso recently I have seen it promoted as one of the best Canadian sites for saving money. I was impressed, and happy to see that the rest of Canada is so grateful for the deals on the site, and saving money!
    However, doesnt it seem pretty obvious that many people are appalled that you felt the need to post this on your page? If you want to discuss something, couldnt you have at least posted it in a forum, as opposed to the public RSS feed? Also, if you want a blog to post your personal idealologies, maybe start a personal blog, and hauck it on this page. At least then people dont have to read it if they dont want too (its not like just skipping past it, after most likely already reading most of it).
    Just think how many people now know of this site because of this posting, and could quite possibly sign up….

  62. Laila says:

    this is disgusting and totally unethical. i have zero respect for people who cheat. and i agree with you. if you’re not happy, then why be with a person?

  63. Dani says:

    Agree with Cheryl888

  64. sara says:

    I don’t mind off-topic posts, but I don’t understand the purpose of this one. AM has been around for several years. I thought they had a new controversial ad campaign or other media attention prompting the post, but instead its just a generic ‘what do you think of them’ post. Obviously most people are against cheating and have opposing views of whether a site like that that should exist. This post didn’t offer anything new or interesting so why promote them. What next, a post about abortion?

  65. Funkymunky says:

    First of all – all the whiners, move along & bugger off. Second of all – Sally wasn’t promoting Ashley Madion, simply generating the discussion. And thirdly – @sara, what’s wrong with discussing abortion? Let’s all pretend it doesn’t happen?

  66. Marg says:

    I completely agree that it is in poor taste. Intellectual conversation is not provoked by such a topic. As demonstrated by the previous posts, it provokes wasteful, argumentative conversation. This post could’ve been used for something much more informative, productive and relevant. Apparently it’s a slow day. @funkymunky….”move along and bugger off”. Wow. There is nothing wrong with discussing abortion, however there is a time and a place. Common sense would tell me that someone coming to SmartCanucks has zero interest in reading this post or an abortion post. Call me crazy, but I’m pretty sure this would be the general consensus.

  67. Jodi says:

    People are free to do as they please, that is why we have free agency. People can cheat or they can be faithful but I don’t agree with a site that is promoting dishonesty, unfaithfulness, and the break up of relationships. American today is destroying the family, something that has the potential to be the strongest bond there can be.

  68. Michelle says:

    I am slightly perplexed as to why this is here.

    There are some “general interest” subjects that I think are appropriate; gardening, decorating, health, beauty, crafts, family type themes etc. you know general interest. Religion, politics, trashy websites, cheating spouses and abortion have NO place here. There are plenty of blogs much better suited to discussion of that sort of content, where people will not be ambushed by a topic they are not expecting. But hey who am I to judge, so why don’t we discuss other hot topics… how about assisted suicide, legalized prostitution or Palestine?

  69. Casey says:

    What??? My husband had a charge on his Visa statement for Ashley Madison last month and he said he bought some sweet goodies off a new website, that Ashley was Dolly Madison’s sister and she was launching a new line of snack cakes and treats…. OMG!!

  70. slide says:

    @Michell:”so why don’t we discuss other hot topics… how about assisted suicide, legalized prostitution or Palestine?”

    Support it, support it, it’s complicated.

    In all seriousness, you weren’t forced to read the whole discussion. I’m sure everyone has an opinion on what is appropriate and what’s not for smartcanucks but if it’s not your cup of tea then just scroll down to the next blog post, no? Surely it took you less than 20 seconds to read the blurb on the front page. Why decide to go in here and dump on everyone trying to have a meaningful adult discussion on a topic that is relevant to or interests them?

    Smartcanucks website – a quick user’s guide ::

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    blog #9115905 : deal Y click HERE for more

    blog #9258159 : random topic N click HERE for more <— (not interested? go to next blog post thank you)

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  71. Natalia says:

    LOL most of these replies are too funny …whining and complaining – what is the primary age demographic of this site? 12-16?

  72. Leeza says:

    One word……TACKY!!

  73. Ashlynn says:

    Adultery isn’t illegal. It’s interesting that this company has created a niche to address a particular market. I guess there must be money to be made for their business. Not everyone views marriage the same and there are plenty of married people who for whatever reason don’t get divorced. This site allows these people to connect. If you don’t like what they are offering, don’t sign-up. People get so wound up about marriage. I’d rather discuss the merits of this site then hear about the Royal Wedding any day.

  74. Natty says:

    Though I don’t condone cheating (seek an open relationship if you think you’ll have problems being monogamous), I don’t think the website “makes” anyone cheat. It’s just as easy to use Craigslist or the newspaper or any other means to meet someone like going to a bar. It’s just a tool for those who want to commit the act. Just because AM provides some resources doesn’t mean people are cheating because of it. Obviously, if you sign up to the website and use it you’ve already got the idea of cheating firmly in your head. I’d say AM just got the ball rolling.

  75. Beth says:

    I haven’t heard of this site, but my husband has…hmmm lol….I don’t mind the idea for others if that is their thing and BOTH people know about it, however I don’t agree with it for people who just want someone on the side without their partner knowing.

  76. Funkymunky says:

    @Casey – oh boy! You might want to revisit that charge with him! :S

  77. del says:

    I do not think this is the right place for this topic. Just my two cents here but if you have never been the cheater and th e one being cheated on you really have no clue to make comments.

  78. del says:

    And for the record the people who say if you are not happy just leave obviously do not have kids,a mortgage, extended family, bills and expectations apon them. If we were all that stupid and selfish the world would be much worse than it already is. I do not agree with A.M. website but people who want to cheat will find a way, sometimes where you least expect it.

  79. T says:

    Seriously, the AM site legally exists like other sites for gambling and porno. There’s nothing wrong discussing why gambling sites and porno sites exist either. But initiating public attention for a SPECIFIC gambling site or porno site is certainly inappropriate. Using the “adult, self-control, freedom” excuse is just too lame.

    The AM site has no difference than gambling sites or porno sites in its nature. I agree with so many previous posters that this whole post is in the wrong place and should be removed.

  80. sally says:

    T i’m not removing this post. It’s not in the “wrong” place. It is different from gambling and porn, obvbiously those are 2 completely other things. If anything you’re being irrational. I’m not saying heres a site cheat. If someone is going to cheat they are going to cheat. In fact most cheating happens at work. Are we going to stop our significant others from heading to work every morning? No, in most cases it’s because we TRUST them. I could open up AM and leave it for my husband and hed simply shut it down and walk away.

    I do find it interesting that the major people objecting entered the sex toy giveaway but cannot discuss cheating. I just find if funny.

    Del. I’m a firm believer if your going to cheat be single. I have 2 kids, a marriage with my husband together for over 10 years, a mortgage, tons of bills and assets etc. My husband is fully aware of this as well, and it’s an agreement between us. I’ve been cheated on before and it’s very painful. But just because something is painful you can’t pretend it doesn’t happen. Ignorance is not bliss.

  81. Amanda says:

    I’m a little surprised that people haven’t heard of Ashley Madison before because they have some pretty aggressive advertising and have been talked about on Oprah, Ellen etc. The SmartCanucks readers must not be their demographic 😉 (not a bad thing!)

    As for this posting – I found it odd that SM was posting it since their non-deal postings aren’t normally this controversial. But I guess these types of postings drives traffic.

  82. Princesstefer says:

    I’m, personally, not a fan of off-topics on the blog, I prefer they stick to the forums – that being said, as much as I’m not a fan of Ashley Madison either, if other OTs are allowed, I don’t see why this should be censored. Censorship is a good way to dumb down society.

    back to the original topic at hand: I’d heard of AM before, but, being someone who doesn’t watch tv much or read main stream periodicals, I’d forgotten about it. I don’t think it’s *right* to cheat, but many people do it for many reasons, some would be a lot more justifiable than a lot of other things society seems to deem acceptable. Even knowing that, I could see myself judging a friend cheating – for one, it’s ingrained, and for another, I know someone who cheated and none of her reasoning ever rang remotely acceptable for me. It’s not something I think should be supported… but I mean that from a general population and friendship standpoint. However, I think it’s reasonable for a business to provide the service for those who seek it. Let’s face it, people are going to seek it anyway. And if those people can be at least honest with someone about their cheating, I like that this is an opportunity for them to do so: I think it helps to stop the cycle of lies.

  83. SuperM says:

    oh – drama – never heard of this site… think its lame – but a reality for some losers

  84. Princesstefer says:

    (74) Ashlynn says… “Adultery isn’t illegal. It’s interesting that this company has created a niche to address a particular market. I guess there must be money to be made for their business. Not everyone views marriage the same and there are plenty of married people who for whatever reason don’t get divorced. This site allows these people to connect. If you don’t like what they are offering, don’t sign-up. People get so wound up about marriage. I’d rather discuss the merits of this site then hear about the Royal Wedding any day.”

    ITA!

  85. Jess says:

    LOL @ Natalka’s post: Any coupons for the site???

    I have to say I am surprised and I am not by everyone who is annoyed or “disgusted” by the thought of this being discussed on Smartcanucks. Yes, this site is a deals site but it is also a place to discuss many other topics. The blog has always been a place where other topics are dicussed, this is nothing new.

    As for Sally posting it and having a discussion… how is this different from watching a show like Oprah where certain taboo topics are brought up. Many of us have later discussed those topics with friends, family, and co-workers. It is a discussion and in no way is Sally promoting the AM website in a positive way. We are all adults and hopefully most of us are able to have an adult conversation about a subject such as this.

  86. maksik says:

    I have NOT heard about this before and I watch TV and spend more time online then I should. So it’s not that popular of a website. But thanks to the poster it just got way more unnecessary advertisement on SC. way to go 🙁

  87. Sally says:

    So if we don’t talk about it it will go away? Good lets do that with the Japan crisis too…..and everything else thats wrong with the world! What a great idea!

    Maksisk, with over 7.8 million members in North America I guarantee you it’s vastly popular.

  88. gmh says:

    Stunned that you would use a “deal of the week” website, with regular email blasts, (for whom the usual focus is on Baby paraphernalia, and family oriented savings) … would have the lack of common sense, to post something like this, to basically, married women, with children.

    Was your intent to titilate? to get more “reaction” type of publicity? Seriously? what’s next for “SmartCanucks” (now a misnomer)?

    Very disappointing at best, that your ego needs this kind of attention. IF you are having a moral or emotional battle, with this in your own life, then you clearly, should not be using THIS site, to post this drivel. It’s embarassing.

    Do you realize, for instance, that I regularly post, and share these deals with others? Certainly, when the thought went in to creating this site was happening, you had some sort of “tenet” or “bible” outlining what this was about. If you didn’t, and thought that using this site to get publicity, whether “positive” or “negative”, to increase your membership, or email list, you’ve lost at least one subscriber. This is unacceptable. I CANNOT and WILL NOT forward/share/recommend you EVER again, and it’s not even a questions of morality. You are a “user”. You’ve exploited your loyal fan base, … for a baser purpose. You should be ashamed, and embarassed by it, but your comments, in between people who are shocked by this, are very revealing as to your character.

    If you are not an owner in this company, you should be fired. “Usery” at it’s worst.

  89. Sally says:

    I am a mother, with 2 children, very happy in my life. My husband is not cheating on me nor am I worried about it. I am one of those mothers you are describing.

    You are WAY off base. But your extremist post did make me giggle a bit. And for giggling I feel bad.
    So basically cheating should NEVER be discussed? Lets just live our perfect lives and pretend it doesn’t happen? Pretend this site isn’t extremely popular?

    I’m sorry. I’m too old to play pretend or make belief.

    Why not discuss the topic at hand and be educated on the topic and site rather then live in an imaginary world where these things don’t exist?

    Gosh, you’d think I posted a picture of a baby in a sandwich.

  90. Mrs H says:

    I have heard of this site. I think that there so many “supposed”members
    shows a sad state to our society. Apparently there are a lot of morally bankrupt people out there.

  91. MJ says:

    For people who seem to think this us just so horrible, they are certainly following this thread carefully!!! If it bothers you do much, why waste your time reading and posting and then following up?? Wow…some of you must be new to the world of blogs and free speech…good work on getting people to contribute!!! I’ll be anxiously waiting to see tomorrow night’s off-topic post!!!! 🙂

  92. Bethany says:

    WHY would I want to go to a website for an affair?! I have a perfectly wonderful husband who is devoted to me. I wouldn’t call you old-fashioned. I’d call you sensible and morally upright. I wouldn’t dare even look for that. And, the fact that the woman had even made a site like that means she’s either looking for money (because she might have figured it was in the market), or she honestly wants to support affairs and divorce.

    I don’t know. I won’t say anything directly, but I will say this. I have no need to go to a site like this, thankfully!

  93. Jess says:

    I’m giggling right along with you Sally. I guess some people live very sheltered lives. Everyone is acting like Sally commited murder for pete sakes! Chill out people it’s not the end of the world.

  94. Mist_ynight says:

    I’ve personally never heard of the website. I must be living under a rock LOL. I think the site is awful, having been cheated on myself I would never wish it on anybody. I wonder how many wives have created an account to try to catch their husbands. That might account for some of the accounts but certainly not all. It just goes to show that many people have no morals. Many people use other sites as well to cheat. I was on POF and it’s unreal how many people are married on that site. It took a while to weed through the idiots but I did find my wonderful husband on POF.

    GMH you obviously don’t like this site as much as you claimed or you wouldn’t stop reccomending it to others. Obviously you are the one with the issues about cheating. Sally does a wonderful job with this site and I enjoy the off topic posts. How is this any different then the fun video’s she posts sometimes? It all generates disscusion and as adults we should be able to have civilized discussions about whatever topic we feel like. Skip the post and get over it!

  95. Davd Bradley says:

    If somebody is going to have an affair, they will do it…I suppose this site might make it a bit easier for those like minded cheaters to find each other…life is too short to drink bad wine and sadly, many marriages do go sour, but continue for all sorts of reasons. If two miserable people can hookup and make each other happy, although it might not be traditional or proper, it has been going on since the beginning time…

  96. ness says:

    Well, this is a doozy of a comment that ought to upset some people….
    I don’t like AM either and I’d be really crushed if I discovered that my husband was on there. However, most of the comments here (IMO) seem to think that cheating happens strictly because the cheater is a bad person.
    Sometimes people cheat in order to NOT leave a marriage. Sometimes marriages change and not all physical requirements are being met for whatever reason. In that case it can be better to meet those needs elsewhere, no strings attached, and carry on in your marriage which works on every other level. Mis-matched libidoes don’t have to mean the demise of an other wise working relationship, especially when there are kids. If nothing else, AM offers a straight forward hook up wherein the consenting adults shouldn’t have any expectations about a future together.
    Ha! Can’t wait to see what you all think of that 🙂

  97. Gem says:

    what is this world coming to? I worry for the future generations.

  98. Michelle says:

    I agree with you Lori (post #21)

    I don’t think linking to the wikipedia site=”free advertising”. The wiki clearly states that the site is under scrutiny for having a lot of fake members and that there’s no way to contact tech support, so if you can’t get on it you’re screwed out of your money.

    If they’re still determined to join after reading that, I’d say find yourself a smarter husband.

  99. Enlightened says:

    What a bunch of ignorant religious zealots on here! I couldn’t even get through half of the comments before feeling as if my brain cells were being shrunk by mere association with the idiocy on this board. Are you a bunch of whiny 2 year olds who can’t SUPPRESS the URGE to click a link, or mature adults with some self restraint??? I read the post and amazingly managed to NOT CLICK THE LINK. If you all can’t even manage to suppress that temptation then perhaps you DO need a site like AM? GROW UP!!! The admin of this board can post whatever she damn well pleases, and if you don’t like it, there are plenty of other deal sites you can frequent. Knowledge is power, if you want to stay in the dark then retreat to your cave and keep your ignorance from infesting the planet.

  100. Abby says:

    LOL. I can’t believe all the people who are freaking out about this.

    What’s next? “You implied that people die, and by the way, I’ve always hated how many diaper ads you have, I’m unsubscribing forever!” *dramatic dun dun dunnnn*

    It’s called internet drama. Fortunately, I happen to have a cure!

    It’s called “Sunshine”. Dosage instructions: Shut down computer, walk away, take half an hour of it, turn on computer, ignore whatever post bothered you, and be happy!

    Oh, the giggles I’ve had.

  101. GDev says:

    I do believe this was posted only to get “recognized”. Haven’t heard of this either, until now, and I

  102. GDev says:

    I do believe this was posted only to get “recognized”. Haven’t heard of this site or commercial either, until now, and I too believe it is unacceptable. If you are going to cheat, then don’t come home!!!

  103. Cigale says:

    I like the fact that you sometimes start discussions. I love deals, but we are not “all about shopping and deals” right?

    We once got a letter from one of those cheat-on-your-mate dating agencies. I called them and chewed them out!

  104. Julee says:

    Totally agree with JulieA and GMH!! I have recommended this site A LOT and just as recently as yesterday, recommended it to two elderly ladies I knew. Imagine their shock and surprise when the first time they visit, they see this post. They were appalled! It’s not a matter of people being ignorant about this existing, it is just that they don’t care to see it when they come here for other things. It IS NOT like Oprah. On Oprah you fully expect controversial topics to be discussed. You tune in for this reason. Not here. Not a lot of forethought went into this…obviously. I think you have lost a lot of subscribers over this one.

  105. slide says:

    @Julee

    Maybe you gave them an expectation that non-deal topics would not be posted on the blog once in a while to engage the community?

    I’ve recommended this site to my friends and they love the site. They also happen to be sane and level-headed individuals who are able to respect opposing viewpoints. No shock and surprise so far (except for some good deals on their first few weeks of using the site).

    I think SmartCanucks is a vibrant community full of people with varying ideas (and ideals). There was a post about the Royal Wedding and while I don’t care much for it I didn’t go into that discussion and dissuaded them from talking about it.

  106. Pandora says:

    I may not agree with cheating but I find nothing wrong with discussing this topic, or any other. Healthy debate or stating our opinions can be good.

    If you only want to see deals then ignore off topic posts, which I knew this was from the first glance.

    I have recommended this site to my grandmother and several of her very religious friends. But they also have TV and have seen worse on commercials. Things like this site are going on all around us, they may have different faces. That doesn’t mean tying a bow on it and not talking about them will make them disappear.

    I enjoyed seeing other opinions. We all have the free will to ignore what we find offensive (although I see nothing that has been), and to pay attention to what we can use.

  107. Funkymunky says:

    I found JulieA’s post absolutely moronic – I believe you owe Sally an appology for the load of crap you just onloaded on her. Wow.

  108. Sally says:

    I don’t remove posts unless they are a significant personal attack. Often people jump the gun and say their post was removed when it’s sitting in the moderated filter or got caught as keyword spam. Only really nasty posts get removed, such as Julie A’s. While were on that topic. JulieA is just one of our regular trolls.

  109. Michelle says:

    @ slide…. same could be said for you just zip on past my comment if you don’t like it. You also felt the need to comment on something you could have ignored, so don’t be so darm smug. Like you I also have an opinion and also as much right as you to express it. Instead of being a hypocrite, why don’t you just take your own advice.

  110. sam says:

    I resent the fact that it is implied that most posts here insinuate that it is men who cheat. I know plenty of married women who do too.

  111. just b says:

    The world is different……It is evolving constantly…..generations after generations are deciding what is right for them. Marriage does not mean what it meant in the 1950’s. We have inter-racial marriages now, open polygamists, the US military is even going to lift the “dont ask, dont tell” and start allowing same sex unions in states that it is legal. Men have been cheating for ages. Now women have jumped on that band wagon. People will cheat with or without a website, a smart person just took advantage of the situation and is making some money from it. Why didnt I think of that.

    I am amazed at all the closed mindedness on here.

  112. date flirt says:

    For a personal ad that gets results – Be positive – You might be lonely and miserable, but you must not let that come out in your personal ad. Also don’t come across as too full of oneself. Let your great qualities show through.

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