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Value Village Canada: No longer organising by colour?

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To those VV Haters out there, I realise that this will just be another nail in the cof­fin. And to the VV Lovers, I’m sure that you’ll be sur­prised to hear that not only have they changed the way they hang their pants, but they aren’t organ­is­ing items accord­ing to colour anymore!

I am an avid VV shop­per, by choice. And boy, with at least 3 other thrift shops in one inter­sec­tion nearby, do I have choices! I choose to fre­quent VV because 1) the core staff are lovely peo­ple and 2) unlike Good­will and Sal­va­tion Army, it’s actu­ally organised.

Now, how­ever, things seemed to have changed:  There are con­stantly new faces, every­one is uni­formed in black, pants are hung side­ways, and items are no longer dis­played as per the colours of the “rain­bow”.  I did ask what was going on to an employee that I speak to on a reg­u­lar basis and she responded, “I have no idea what’s going on.  They seem to be mak­ing up all these new poli­cies that don’t seem to make sense!”

These new poli­cies cer­tainly don’t make any sense to me, a cus­tomer.  Like who picks pants out based on the waist­band?  And since items are no longer organ­ised accord­ing to colour, not only is it going to look messy, but it will be messy ’cause it’ll prompt peo­ple to ran­domly place things wher­ever they want due to the way it looks.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for change…when there are advan­tages, but I don’t see any in the cases listed above!  Instead of set­ting itself apart, the new look is mak­ing the store look more and more like a Goodwill/Salvation Army.  And if this is true, and the prices are still higher than other thrift stores, why would I con­tinue to choose to shop there??

Instead of tak­ing the passive-aggressive stance, grum­bling under­neath my breath, I’m def­i­nitely going to say some­thing about all these “new changes”.  I’m going to con­tact Value Vil­lage and I urge other irked shop­pers to do the same.

41 Responses to “Value Village Canada: No longer organising by colour?”

  1. VancouverGrownUp

    I agree with the thumbs down to no longer orga­niz­ing by colour but i do like the new pants hang­ing style. You can check a waist band against your­self for siz­ing or check out the style of waist band (I am always look­ing for full elas­tic waist for my son who is potty train­ing) with­out hav­ing to remove the pants from the hanger. Much quicker.

  2. buzyb34

    It looks hor­ri­ble. Now it will take for­ever to go through the racks. It doesnt make any sense to me either. I love shop­ping at VV. two thumbs down for this change

  3. LL

    I guess they’re becom­ing lazy now. Maybe they want the store to appear more like a trea­sure hunt.

  4. Lily

    Stepha­nia, do you have sources or are these just your obser­va­tions from your local store?

    Back up your claims.

  5. Andie

    so, they are arrang­ing by size now? if that’s the case i’m okay with it, but yes, it will ook messier.

  6. vvemployee

    only pants/jeans/capris and shorts are hung side­ways. skirts and activewear are still hung ‘nor­mally’.
    the sense is that peo­ple would nor­mally ‘rip’ out the item to see the waist band or brand cre­at­ing more mess for us to clean up (and it only takes one customer)

    I work in Win­nipeg, there is NO truth to the rumour that we are not orga­niz­ing by rain­bow.
    Size FIRST, then color. It’s not a typ­i­cal rain­bow though– it’s yel­low, orange, red, pur­ple, pink, green, blue, brown, grey, black/white, black, white.
    There are you facts from a cur­rent employee.

    If things are out of order it is usu­ally not because the staff is lazy but because peo­ple like to put things where they don’t belong if they decide not to take them.
    So I’m ask­ing any of our cur­rent shop­pers, if you can’t take the items back to the fit­ting rooms or know where they go– please hang them on the ends in the aisle, not amidst the orga­nized clothes.

  7. danifish

    I just went there yes­ter­day!! I was sur­prised to see the pants like that, but as long as they are by size I couldn’t care less how they hang them… Although I still fre­quently go else­where like Tal­ize and Good­will, because their prices are WAY better!!

  8. Jo

    Hmm, My local VV is still orga­nized by rain­bow– I went this past Mon­day! Maybe it’s only at cer­tain locations?

  9. jules

    Who choses pants by waistband?”

    NOT ME!!! Im a size zero, but those jeans over there that are a 16 look nice! Im sure i’ll fit in them.…..
    Seri­ously thats the only way you should buy clothes, by your size, not by their colour.

  10. FallenPixels

    I am with Jules, it is eas­ier if I can just look through the stuff in my size at once rather than pulling out a load of stuff to look at siz­ing. I can tell if I like the colour eas­ily by look­ing at the stuff in my size.

  11. Cheri

    I worked at Value Vil­lage for 3 years and i’m sure they still colour­ize their mer­chan­dise. It is just that there is one per­son per store who does the colour­iz­ing and they only get a 5 hour shift, 4 times a week. It isn’t fun and it is A LOT of work. Not only are you colour­iz­ing, you are also tak­ing mer­chan­dise out that doesn’t belong there and sort­ing it by size. It takes a very long time and as soon as your done one sec­tion, a cus­tomer will come along and com­pletely ruin it. Then there is the night staff which is usu­ally just teenagers who just want to make a quick buck and get the hell out of there and they will just shove clothes from the change rooms every­where. As for the way they hang their pants, it hasn’t changed at all in the stores around here, maybe just the store you go to? I’m not sure. It’s impos­si­ble to keep those stores clean and orga­nized, trust me!

  12. lil e

    I agree with Jules as well. i don’t shop at VV, but I would pre­fer to search for things by my size, rather than see­ing some­thing I like and then I have to **find my size. I rather look through an entire rack, and any­thing I like I can just pick it up.

  13. Lennea

    I LOVE this new way of hang­ing pants on their sides.

    It makes it much eas­ier to check the size and brand for myself with­out talk­ing the hanger out.

    Then when I am sure I am inter­ested I can take them out and check style and condition.

    I have seen a cou­ple of other retail stores hang­ing their pants like this as well and I am 100% for it.

    It makes way more sense to me.

    As for orga­niz­ing by size and colour, I hope they are not get­ting rid of that.

    VV stores are much to big to have to check the whole rack.

    It already takes me a cou­ple of hours to go through a store, if they changed the size / colour orga­ni­za­tion it could be a deal breaker for me.

  14. Someone

    YES! My roo­mate works at value vil­lage and she HATES the new changes. She thinks it’s just not a good choice. I hope they change it.

  15. Princesstefer

    Why is every­one assum­ing that they don’t sort by size when they sort by colour?? They orga­nize by size first and the stuff is sub orga­nized by colour… which is actu­ally quite con­ve­nient when you’re look­ing for colours that suit you or that go with an out­fit you’re putting together.
    Ours is still sorted by colour, and I’d be sur­prised if that changes.

    As for the way they hang the pants, I do like that I can quickly see the brand (yes, I’m sorry, brand does mat­ter — not ’cause I need to wear a label but ’cause jeans by 725 suck, espe­cially com­pared to Jacob, Gap, etc.). But, I do pre­fer to see the cut first: straight leg, baggy, bell or boot, etc. I also don’t want tacky sequins down the side of the leg.

    Argu­ment about see­ing the siz­ing: they are mostly (aside from stuff that’s been moved/dumped) orga­nized by size… and the tag they add to the side that hung out­wardly had the size on it — granted their siz­ing was some­times off, and so can be the man­u­fac­tur­ers. But I find it much more effi­cient to be in the sec­tion that is sup­posed to be my size, find a cut I like and then ver­ify the actual size, if it looks clo­sish, then I try it on.

    I’m sure this new way of hang­ing the pants will mean that peo­ple will take them off hang­ers less, but they should maybe con­sider hir­ing more peo­ple to deal with putting items back, and/or put up signs remind­ing cus­tomers that their con­sid­er­a­tion with help keep prices lower.

    Per­son­ally, aside from not being able to see the cut first, I find this looks much messier and over­whelm­ing and I didn’t even look at the jeans (which typ­i­cally makes up the bulk of my pur­chase) the last three times I was in there. I tried to look through them the first time I went in after the change, but found it really annoy­ing, so haven’t both­ered since.

    My new pol­icy beef with them: They no longer sell items with­out tags to cus­tomers. I under­stand why they do this, but I found out about it the painful way. I found a brand new pair of Marines by Aussie Soles, in my size with Edmon­ton Eskimo logos on them, fell in love and fig­ured that I’ll just ask them what they’ll cost me. that’s when the clerk took them away and said that they need to be priced by one of their pricers that come in at night, she also obnox­iously tapped the new sign with her nail… umm, ok, bu can they be held for me in the morn­ing? No, I’d need to come in and hope they’re avail­able. They were not. I never saw them again. Sure I’ve seen some peo­ple take off tags to try to get bet­ter prices from the clerks, but now they’ll likely just switch the tags. Why couldn’t they just have a man­ager trained for pric­ing? I was even will­ing to pay on the high end for those shoes. :(

  16. C..

    I love the new way of hang­ing pants — at my vv they still sort by size. Dif­fer­ent brands of jeans fit me in dif­fer­ent sizes, so it makes it so much eas­ier to find ones that fit!

    I hope they still orga­nize by colour — they did last time I was there, but I guess it could change.

  17. abbasgirl

    Jules, Fal­l­en­pix­els, etc. It is arranged by size but then colour coor­di­nated. So for exam­ple, if you are look­ing for a blue pair of pants in size 10, you would go to the size 10 sec­tion and all the blue pants in that size would be together. It’s the best way to orga­nize used cloth­ing so I hope they don’t stop doing it that way.

  18. dandelion

    I dont shop our value vil­lage. I find the prices too high for the qual­ity I get ( at our value Vil­lage any­way). Our local Good­will is the best sec­ond hand store I’ve ever been in! It’s so clean and the prices are great. That being said I have been in a few good­will stores that were pretty dis­gust­ing. I also like Talize!

  19. Stephania

    As far as I can tell, cloth­ing is organ­ised in this order:
    1. Type (pants, tops, skirts, jeans, etc.),
    2. Size
    ***3. Colour — As per the com­ments, it seems as though some VVs are still con­sid­er­ing this, but the one I shop at has com­pletely done away with colour.***

    As some com­menters men­tioned, it takes FOREVER now to look for some­thing ’cause you hafta look through the entire row!

  20. FallenPixels

    Mine still has it by colour but hon­estly, I just look for what would suit me not walk in think­ing I need a red shirt

  21. HistoryBuffette

    My local store hasn’t made the pants change yet and I hope that they don’t and here’s why; don’t you guys find that (as with every­thing these days, I even find this at Old Navy) depend­ing on where things are made and their brand, the size on the pant or on the size racks still doesn’t fit you? I find this espe­cially true at VV.

    When I shop for pants (usu­ally jeans, I am a VV jeans col­lec­tor it seems) I am look­ing for a cer­tain style, and espe­cially jeans with neat pock­ets (it’s just what I like, and by neat I don’t mean sparkly or with fringe, I mean with top flaps and but­tons and per­haps dif­fer­ent shapes or cuts) and I try on every­thing from sizes 9/10 to 11/12, just because some­times I fit any­thing from in there (and some­times I REALLY don’t).

    I go through each rack flick­ing through the pants look­ing at the back (I don’t care about brand tags, I don’t go round let­ting strangers look inside my waist­band so who really cares any­way) and so the new way is going to slow me down A LOT. I’m still not sure why peo­ple like to shop the new way? Do you really get a good sense of what the pants look like that way? Why don’t you trust the size on the rack as a guide­line? Do you really under­stand if you’re a 28X32 or a 32X32? Don’t you try these things on before you buy them any­way? Are brands really that impor­tant to you that you won’t con­sider the item until you see if it’s by roots or Walmart’s brand (or what­ever you’re brand­name line is)? Who are you and why am I ask­ing you all of these ques­tions? ;)

    The bot­tom line is I have adapted my VV shop­ping to the way they did things, and it sucks to have to change after 10 years of shop­ping there.

  22. Mini-Me

    As a recent con­vert to VV shop­ping, I’ve been very impressed with how orga­nized their stores are and the HUGE amount of cloth­ing they have! But hav­ing said that…

    VV pet peeve:
    Hang­ing GIRLS’ Size 14 pants/jeans in the WOMEN’S 13/14 section.

    Worse:
    SIZING Girls’ Size 14 as Women’s 13/14.

    GRRR!

  23. Janine

    I shop at VV in Vic­to­ria from time to time, espe­cially for kids clothes and dress clothes but it TOTALLY grosses me out! The clothes, mostly, are alright, but the store itself is pretty much the filth­i­est store on the planet. I acci­dently let a pair of pants drag on the floor there, for a minute tops, and by the time I noticed the bot­tom of the legs had a THICK layer of dust and hair and fluff on them. It wouldn’t be so bad if it was just nor­mal dirt on the floor but the store is located in the worst area of town, where the home­less peo­ple and drug addicts hang out, so the things being tracked in REALLY need to be cleaned up for the sake of peo­ples health. I don’t like to let the kids out of the cart while we’re there (this has resulted in 20 minute cry­ing ses­sions) and I put hand san­i­tizer all over the cart when I put them in it and layer it on their hands when we leave. If they would prop­erly clean the store I would shop there far more often.

  24. JR

    vv is a joke, espe­cially when you see dol­larama items priced for $2.99 and t-shirts torn to hell by a puppy sold for 6 or 7 dollars…honestly, you can occa­sion­ally get a bar­gain from vv but i believe the store should be left off a web­site about find­ing good deals.

  25. Pat

    My Value Vil­lage is still orga­niz­ing by size and colour as usual.

    How­ever, am I the only one who finds it a lit­tle offen­sive that you feel the need to spec­ify that you shop in thrift stores by “choice?” Do you feel superior?

  26. Stephania

    @Pat — If you read the sen­tence PROPERLY, it states that I shop at the VV by choice — as opposed to the other thrift stores in the area!

    I have choices because there is more than one store in that con­cen­trated area.

  27. Wyn

    I worked at Value Vil­lage for a while as a stu­dent, and the only rea­son I can think about chang­ing the way the pants are hung is that many cus­tomers used to take them off the hanger to com­pare the waist­band to their own waist, and then promptly throw the pants on the floor or toss them over the rack if they decided to look at another pair of pants instead. I imag­ine the com­pany is hop­ing that the new hang­ing sys­tem will pre­vent cus­tomers from need­ing to take the pants off the hanger, and there­fore they will be more inclined to rehang the pants when they are fin­ished look­ing at them. As for the new pol­icy against colour-sorting, when I worked there it was very dif­fi­cult to orga­nize by colour, as cus­tomers didn’t under­stand our sort­ing pol­icy would would re-hang items they were look­ing at in the wrong colour zone. It wasn’t unusual for a team of us to have to stay behind an extra hour after the store closed to try and reor­ga­nize the racks by colour. Of course, that also costs the com­pany money, as they would have to pay their employ­ees over­time for that extra hour we spent try­ing to reor­ga­nize the store using the rain­bow system.

  28. LR

    I guess I like the trea­sure hunt idea to find unex­pected deals and great buys. I like the other thrift stores and find VV too orga­nized and feel some of those gems get picked out due to all the sort­ing and never make it to the floor.

  29. Colin

    I love the new hang­ing of pants on the side. Love it. I hope they don’t change it back.

    As for sort­ing by colour.. no big deal. As long as they are sorted by size, that is all that matters.

  30. Silvana

    I am not a fan of VV and have always walked out 1 minute after walk­ing in.
    The prices are MUCH too high.…..you can get as good new if you re a good shop­per. OK maybe once in a blue moon there’ll be that real find but hav­ing shopped other thrift stores VV hon­estly comes at the bot­tom of my list.

    I donate my stuff to a shel­ter and can hon­estly say that I wouldn’t dare to give away things that are in such awful con­di­tion as you see there some­times. If I wouldn’t wear it it goes to the curb.

  31. jenn

    I per­son­ally choose my pants by length. I am tall why waste my time look­ing at short pants…I HATE the way VV hangs its pants. I stopped look­ing at the pants out of pure frus­tra­tion. Every­time I try to mea­sure the length of the pant leg I have to take it of the hanger What a pain! I would rather see the pants hang­ing the old way, by the waist.

  32. HistoryBuffette

    @LR, most of us find that the staff at VV doesn’t go through their stuff ENOUGH (though I can’t blame them), whilst you feel that they go through it and take the ‘trea­sures’ out? You’d be lucky to find some­thing there from before the 70’s any­way, so if by trea­sure you’re look­ing for the type of thing that you’d be pleas­antly suprised to find is worth $3000 on Antiques Road­show, a) you’re bet­ter off garage sale-ing it or try­ing to find one of those rare unob­ser­vant antiques deal­ers and b) that sort of trea­sure hunt­ing or acci­den­tal trea­sure inher­it­ing is more likely to yield reward in lands with a lot of his­tory and idiot grand­chil­dren who sell/throw things out because they want a ‘mod­ern’ look­ing flat, ie: In the UK where I hale from, other parts of Europe and in some of the old­est parts of the US.

    Unless you meant by ‘trea­sure’ a cute pair of jeans or a pretty fig­urine, to which I reit­er­ate, where do you think VV empoy­ees get the time to beat you to the punch?

  33. Sami

    I agree with you, Jenn. I want to be able to see the length when the pants or shorts are still on the hanger. It def­i­nitely takes longer to look through a rack. Not sure I’ll bother. Left this morn­ing with­out try­ing any­thing on or buy­ing anything.

  34. Stephania

    I’ve read all the com­plaints, sim­i­lar to mine, but is any­one going to bother voic­ing their opin­ions where it counts? To their store man­ager &/or to their head office?

    HOPEFULLY, if they keep track of their sales, they’ll make changes accord­ingly. Oth­er­wise, things will remain the same!

  35. LR

    @HistoryBuffette,

    By trea­sure I don’t mean gold or a $3000 item…not like the “Pawn Shop” TV Show…lol Just like you said could be a cute pair of jeans, furniture…etc.

    I use to live near a really awe­some Good­will and they had every­thing from fur­ni­ture, clothes and elec­tron­ics and most of the time those items where quickly sorted and put right on the floor and the prices where so great. So by “TREASURE” I mean some­thing you may find use­ful, the qual­ity is good…sometimes great and it’s a great price.

    I find VV prices are much higher, the clothes are mostly older than the other thrift shops with no options to really find any­thing newer. Since we are in 2011, items don’t have to be in the 70’s any­more to be much older.

    Peo­ple donate all kinds of items new and old…some good qual­ity, some almost new but some­how I never seem to find those items at VV but I do in other thift shops.…which is why I feel some items may get sorted out before it even gets to the floor.…What do they do with all the bet­ter qual­ity items that they receive??

    I just found that the places that did less sort­ing and put the items quickly on the floor had the best deals and they didn’t have to pay their staff extra money to sort by color.…something that is not really nec­es­sary and could help to bring their prices down.

    I keep going back to VV hop­ing that some­thing has changed and agree with Sil­vana and after 1 minute I walk out.…it’s last on my list as well. VV is ok but I think that it needs to be improved.

  36. HistoryBuffette

    @LR, I guess it’s about where you live and how each store is run by dif­fer­ent peo­ple. My Good­will and Sal­va­tion Army are really gross. They are also in a not so great part of town with crappy park­ing, whereas my local VV is in a strip mall next to a gym. I find their prices to be okay ($7.99 for a pair of Bluenotes jeans that have nary been on someone’s arse is pretty good to me) plus with the super­saver thing they have going and those punch cards this month that get you 30% off every­thing includ­ing fur­na­ture, I have been doing pretty well there and I like that aside from some inevitable dust and their bunny bretheren it is CLEAN and doesn’t make you worry about what other crit­ters you’re bring­ing home with you.

    Of course my local store is not in a big city, and per­haps that is where the price issues are?

    I do get what you mean though, when they sort they do some­times price accord­ingly; I was flip­ping through jeans a cou­ple of weeks ago and saw a pair by Gucci with these lit­tle crys­tals on them (size 0, which I wouldn’t fit in my dreams, but I don’t wear things with lit­tle crys­tals all over them any­way, no mat­ter who made them) and saw with a lit­tle shock at first that they were priced (if mem­ory serves) some­where in the $49.99 region. So they aren’t stu­pid, but I was shocked to see any­one donat­ing per­fectly fine look­ing way-too-expensive-new-to-begin-with designer jeans in the first place. Is it per­haps more reg­u­lar in the city?
    My addi­tional point with this exam­ple is that at least at MY VV, the employ­ees don’t seem to get first dibs, since I’m sure those jeans could re-sell on ebay for bet­ter than $50 if some­one had first dibs on them. But then again I only see guys in the sort­ing part of our store (com­ing and going with those huge dona­tion bins) so that may be why… I know if I was a sorter there I’d snag stuff I liked if it were allowed. It’s just human nature.

    @Stephania,

    No I prob­a­bly won’t be com­plain­ing to my local VV peo­ple, mainly because I don’t shop there a ton usu­ally (it’s still out of the way, just not as bad as the other thrift stores), but I have been lately because of the mem­ber­ship coupon and now the 30% stamp cards. I’m sorry but if they keep offer­ing stuff like that, for me, the 30% off is worth the extra pain and I don’t want them think­ing that the lower sales is due to the new reward pro­gram, because I actu­ally like it and it has worked on get­ting me to shop there more. I used to only go on 50% off days (and instantly regret­ted it, since it is way too crazy on those days) and when I needed some­thing sea­sonal. Now I have been able to pick up some kitchen chairs to refin­ish (a hobby, and with 30% off fur­na­ture, you don’t feel so bad in strip­ping them) and a TON of clothes for every­one in the fam­ily… so the dis­count is worth it to me to keep my mouth shut.

  37. LR

    @HistoryBuffette,

    I under­stand what you mean. The items that are donated can depend on the area and each store is run dif­fer­ently. Ya it’s true some thrift stores can use a good cleaning…lol

    ($7.99 for a pair of Bluenotes jeans that have nary been on someone’s arse is pretty good to me)”.….ahahhahahahahhahahhaha

    some inevitable dust and their bunny bretheren”.….ahahhaha lol

    True at least VV is quite clean…so you don’t take home some of the crit­ter bretheren.

  38. Pam

    Not orga­nized by color in Fred­er­ic­ton NB aymore. what a mess!!

  39. always

    Fan­tas­tic story, reck­oned we’re able to mix sev­eral uncon­nected infor­ma­tion, nev­er­the­less well worth look­ing, whoa per­formed one learn about Mid East­ern offers more prob­lerms as well.

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