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Oh, Zellers Canada How I loathe thee.

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So today I went to Lon­don with my 50% off coupon that I printed off, only to be humi­lated and leave the Zellers store feel­ing like a crim­i­nal. I printed this yes­ter­day evening and had planned to buy myself a pair of ear­rings. I live one hour from Lon­don. Add that to the 45 min­utes I spent look­ing at items and wait­ing a while for an asso­ciate to even come the the jewel counter. Thats 1.45 hours of life wasted. Wasted because when I went to use my coupon, I was informed that Zellers has revoked the offer.

Excuse me? Revoked? I have the offer right here. I was then told that they decided that it was no long valid on sale items. Hold up? No longer valid? Are you kid­ding me? Since when?

I was treated like a piece of trash, by the (appar­ent) man­ager and was basi­cally called a liar. As it was “impos­si­ble” for me to have printed this last night. So I shouldn’t even have a 50% off coupon at all. Well I did. I had no intent to act mali­ciously with the coupon, nor had I even heard of this “change” to the coupon. Not only that but who runs this place? Finally this week Zellers brought traf­fic into their quite and lonely stores and per­haps earned more faith with shop­pers. How do they embrace this change? Squash it by infu­ri­at­ing and belit­tling their cus­tomers. Great move Zellers, dig your hole deeper. I should of just went and bought a shovel and handed it to the man­ager. I can under­stand it has been a very pop­u­lar coupon for them, but it was pulled because it was too pop­u­lar? Who is your mar­ket­ing team? It wouldn’t take a baby genius to know that this was going to drive the most traf­fic to Zellers ever. I don’t get you Zellers corp. I really don’t. There is no way this was a “mis­take” your rep on Face­book posted over and over, yes it’s valid on sale items. Let me check with head office. Yes it’s valid. Over and over.

I have never felt so badly treated in all my life in a store. Why not at least hon­our those cus­tomers that were try­ing to hon­estly use the coupon. As for the “notices” posted… I was told all they had was a notice posted at the front entrance door. Noth­ing at the mall entrance. Noth­ing with the flyer stands etc.

I have talked to Cus­tomer Sup­port and I’m await­ing an out­come. As it stands right now they need to make this right with me or I will never sup­port or step foot in their chain again.

276 Responses to “Oh, Zellers Canada How I loathe thee.”

  1. michelle

    I am soooo happy all those rude zellers staff wil soon lose their jobs

  2. kerry

    Like many coupons I print,for what­ever rea­son they are never used,this one included.I do feel relieved I didn’t make the trip for nothing.

  3. ib

    I braved it yes­ter­day with my 3 days old daugh­ter, only to be told that it was not on sale items. I was so mad.

    I just wished the cashiers were all doing the same thing.
    The line I was in had a b*tchy cashier that would not let any­thing go through. She held up the line for 2 min­utes because a cus­tomer would not say the word “cucum­ber”. On the other line, the cashier was let­ting any­one use as many coupons as they want all at once. One lady had 10 coupons at once.

    Guess which line I ended up on? No more Zellers. They really pissed a lot of peo­ple off. What a bit­ter note for a store to leave on.

  4. pro

    You guys are being to mean, zellers prob­a­bly noticed peo­ple using more than one coupon, the same peo­ple prob­a­bly print­ing out 100 coupons and going back and cheat­ing them, so they go tired of the crap, how can you expect them to make any profit?, Why dont they JUST give it to you fOR FREE .…How do you expect them to stay in buis­ness like that?
    ITs peo­ple like some of you guys , the rea­son that our cana­dian buis­nesses are going bankrupt,and hand­ing us over to the amer­i­cans
    Zellers has pretty good SALES and prices to begin with, you shouldn’t complain.

  5. pro

    I am soooo happy all those rude zellers staff wil soon lose their jobs

    - SOme­one said this–

    yes there are a few bad ones, But this state­ment is pretty nasty!

  6. pro

    Oh , and the peo­ple that even admit­ted to using more than 1 coupon, YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING ILLEGAL SO how DARE you Get angry or yell at them for not hon­our­ing your coupon!!

  7. MOJOO

    Zellers is a hor­ri­bly run oper­a­tion. It looks like this lit­tle fiasco has back­fired on them big time. I too cre­ated a big stink in my local store. Good ridense, soon they will be gone. Show HBC what you think with your feet — boy­cott all HBC stores.

  8. Hen

    ib — it has been estab­lished for days its now reg­u­lar priced items only, so why are you upset that YOU went into the store and they con­firmed that for you…

    and i agree pro some­one else said they would hit a manger over the head with a shovel… i guess this is a joke (?) but not very funny at all.

  9. Penny2673

    To all those lovely peo­ple who are happy all the Zellers staff will lose their jobs. You should be ashamed of your­selves. We are just reg­u­lar peo­ple try­ing to make a liv­ing and pro­vide for our fam­i­lies. I’ve worked for Zellers for 20 years and, I’ve worked with some amaz­ing peo­ple over the years. We try to do the best job we can with what we’re given. I think Tar­get would be lucky if they hire some of the peo­ple I work with. They are some of the hard­est work­ing peo­ple I know.

    I can’t believe all this hate over a coupon???? Its one thing to attack a company’s pol­icy, but its another to attack the peo­ple unlucky enough to have to enforce it. I don’t agree with Sears’ return pol­icy but, I’m not going to attack the sales per­son who has to enforce that policy.

    I’m very hurt by this nasty thread.

  10. mandeebn

    I am shocked at some of these com­ments as well in this thread and quite hon­estly sad­dened for all involved as I can under­stand the frus­tra­tions of both sides but to quite lit­er­ally take it out on the Zellers staff who are only try­ing to make a liv­ing for their fam­i­lies and a roof over their head is very disrespectful–it is not their fault that they work for a com­pany who can­not hon­our their offers–please guys, show the world smart canuck’ers are not rude jerks but rather peo­ple who just want to share some deals!

    Please chin up, get past this and enjoy the new year!
    Zellers will soon be gone and I feel for the peo­ple who may find them­selves unemployed—think about that before you take it out on them! Lord love a duck, lots of cashiers drive me crazy too but they are being scolded by upper man­age­ment about these issues and only want to pre­serve their pay­checks!
    Remem­ber Linen n’ Things a while ago—that’s all I am going to say!

    Every­one enjoy your first day of 2012 and do some­thing fun with your family!

  11. flamingteeth

    I went to the Zellers in Mon­treal, no prob­lem at all to use the coupon. I think it really depends on the loca­tions and cashiers, espe­cially, in QC, I think most of the fran­coph­one cashiers, they are really “whatever”

  12. elza

    I went at Zellers yes­ter­day here in Mis­sis­sauga and bought big box of dia­pers and I was able to use this coupon.

  13. JoJos

    I think this will end my Zellers shopping…I printed my coupon the day it appeared on Face­book but wasn’t able to get to Zellers until Thursday…and of course I was so upset to find out I couldn’t use the coupon on an item I wanted to pur­chase. Yeesh I think almost every­thing was on SALE so what could the coupon be used for? It is obvi­ous that peo­ple were abus­ing the coupon, i.e. using more than one per cus­tomer. If Zellers mar­ket­ing hon­chos were think­ing clearly, they would have required per­haps each cus­tomer to enter their email address and/or HBC Rewards # or some­thing to make it not so easy for peo­ple to abuse. Of course there are peo­ple who have 4, 5, 6 or more email addresses but I think the major­ity of peo­ple are hon­est would just entered their one email address to get the coupon. Addi­tion­ally, the coupons could have still been used on sale items, but put some exclu­sions on it, like not valid on lug­gage, major appli­ances, elec­tron­ics, etc. Any­way I’m tired of being so dis­ap­pointed with Zellers.

  14. Deb

    I was hop­ing to get a Tas­siomo but that’s 50% off of $149. price so not a great deal. No deal on sale items or elec­tron­ics with coupon but any­thing else was a go. I ended up get­ting half off a spring blouse at $24.99 reg. So that’s a sav­ings I appre­ci­ated and I did get other cloth­ing deals for 30, 40 & 50% off.Okay deals Zellers, thanks!

  15. Deb

    Shame on the ones glad that Zellers employ­ees will lose their jobs. My daugh­ter is los­ing her job ay Zellers and she is a hard worker. I know this because I worked with her on her job before Zellers. She also lost that job because the owner sold all the stores. Tough luck!

    P.S.

    When I used my 50% coupon the cashier was awe­some and wanted me to get the best deal for my coupon.

  16. m.

    Are peo­ple for­get­ting when Chap­ters put out a $5 coupon a cou­ple of years ago, with no min­i­mum pur­chase, and pulled it after a cou­ple of days, and you couldn’t use it at all? Stores reserve the right to can­cel or change an offer. They have notices posted on their entrances. Sucks, but that’s how it works.

  17. sarah

    I expe­ri­enced the same feel­ing as you described dur­ing your most recent visit to Zellers. I read the retrac­tion was because of the over­whelm­ing response. What did Zellers think the response was going to be?

  18. Sally

    m. .…

    chap­ters has put this $5 coupon out online every month for the past 6 months. I do not know what you are speak­ing of?

  19. Jenn

    It’s sad how some of you wishes bad on oth­ers. It’s never alright. It’s not the employ­ees fault. It’s a sad thing to lose your job or have the poten­tial hang­ing over your head. My hus­band, myself and many friends have went thru that, it’s not a good thing, not any­thing you would like to wish on anyone.

    All the best to all of you, incl. Zellers employees.

  20. Mary Lumsden

    I agree-my son got a sale item but we could not-had to go the first morn-their mistake-they will probe­bly be bought out soon-I do not shop there much any more-no deals

  21. Z.kay

    I used my coupon the sec­ond day that it was out and was able to get my deal and was so happy with it that I shared the coupon with friends. I hope they were able to use it as well!

  22. Lynda

    i’m sure the ones who which the employee’s loose their job are the one who profit of the error and the inex­per­inemt of some employee’s. Leave them alone and stop prof­it­ing of the store you shop in.

  23. nick

    Give up on Zellers. The only good thing is tar­get will absorb some and wipe out the rest of that chain. Mar­ket­place had a show on the worst stores in Canada for cus­tomer ser­vice. Zellers lost–they are the worst, Cana­dian tire was sec­ond worst. Both of these com­pa­nies would not talk at all to mar­ket­place and only CTC even both­ered to offer com­pen­sa­tion for the shop­per involved. Zellers in a let­ter would not com­pen­sate the cus­tomer involved(staffer from Mar­ket­place and when she opened the cof­fee brewer she bought found it was dirty, bro­ken and well used instead of new. Zeller swould give her a gift card but would not return the money even thogh they knew Mar­ket­place was involved.

  24. Disgrunt

    I worked in two dif­fer­ent Zellers stores from 1991 to 1997 and have always had fairly strong opin­ions on why the chain would fail. In the early days of my employ­ment I was work­ing in a very recently con­verted for­mer Tow­ers store. Imme­di­ately I was thrust into an envi­ron­ment full of grumpy employ­ees who were taken over as well, who had their wages frozen indef­i­nitely as the pay scales of Zellers were less gen­er­ous of those at Tow­ers. It is quite pos­si­ble that some of these folks were just plain over­paid to begin with, and maybe that’s what killed the Tow­ers chain amongst many other things. Any­ways, Zellers did not seem to bring any sense of excite­ment to any­one. Many felt they were a small fish being gob­bled up by a whale. I once over­heard a for­mer Tow­ers assis­tant store man­ager say that the takeover was han­dled badly, with no regard for the employ­ees. Sur­prise sur­prise. The way Zellers upper man­age­ment took care of busi­ness became more and more appar­ent as I con­tin­ued in my employ­ment there.
    At first I was hired as a cashier. Before long a full-time posi­tion opened up in the House­wares depart­ment of the store. I got the posi­tion and found myself inher­it­ing a com­plete dis­as­ter. Boxes had been opened, were torn and tat­tered, mer­chan­dise was strewn across the floors, dis­play mod­els were incom­plete, miss­ing, or existed for items no longer sold, and items were not where they should have been on the shelves. At first I was shocked, but as time wore on, I real­ized that I was only expected to have things picked up off the floor and thrown back on the shelf each night, just so that the clean­ers could mop the floors. This was a far cry from my pre­vi­ous job in a gro­cery store where we could not leave the store until every­thing looked good. This included “fac­ing” items on the shelves– retail lingo for bring­ing things to the front so that mer­chan­dise was acces­si­ble and made the shelf look full even if it wasn’t. At Zellers the only time this prac­tice was fol­lowed was in the days prior to what we used to call “Royal Vis­its” when man­agers above the dis­trict man­ager level would visit. I found this some­what puz­zling. Why didn’t these peo­ple leave the vis­its unan­nounced and show up dressed like reg­u­lar joes, and see what the front lines, the stores, actu­ally looked like on a nor­mal basis? These guys, and yes, they were ALL men at the time, mostly grey haired tall men in impec­ca­ble suits, wanted every­one employed at the store to make a huge fuss over them.

    The sad part about these vis­its was the way the store man­ager and depart­ment man­agers were treated. They were essen­tially given no salary bud­get, yet were expected to have things look­ing spic and span at all times. Some­times the upper man­age­ment guys would pull a power trip and force a store man­ager to clean up a depart­ment him­self while his shocked employ­ees looked on. It was a real power trip for these bul­lies as they threw their weight around.

    Oddly enough, I was encour­aged to apply for the store man­age­ment pro­gram, and being a high-school edu­cated kid with noth­ing to lose, I took them up on the offer. In late 1993 I started my first assign­ment in another store, and for some time was pleased to be amongst employ­ees that seemed more pos­i­tive. I was told almost imme­di­ately that the store I was now work­ing in had not seen the salary cuts of the pre­vi­ous store, but that they were com­ing, and come they did. Almost overnight the loca­tion went from being a decent place, to the same shit­hole as the first store. Some­how they thought that less employ­ees would save them enough money to make the store more prof­itable. In the ensu­ing year I learned many things about how the com­pany oper­ated, and here is a list of “beefs”:
    – Aisles clut­tered with junky unnap­peal­ing items that were old, tat­tered or had been returned. We were told NOT to reduce these items to clear. The end result is that they never sold and wasted space. The sta­tionery depart­ment was one of the worst exam­ples.
    – Sale items were seem­ingly never in stock. In fact, the store was in stock, but the mer­chan­dise was on a pal­lett deep in the stock­room where no one could get it. The stock­room was tiny, so tiny, in fact, that in stuff­ing it with more pal­letts, the aisles between the rows of pal­letts were elim­i­nated. Essen­tially we had a block of pal­letts about 8 across and 10 deep, the only way any­one would find the sale mer­chan­dise would be if they hauled each pal­lett out and stuck it in the aisles of the store. This, of course, was for­bid­den.
    – Out­dated com­put­er­ized inven­tory sys­tem. I’m not sure if it was replaced, but up to 1997 the PIMS sys­tem was in place. This sys­tem, devel­oped in the 70’s, was sup­posed to auto­mat­i­cally re-order items as they got low. Some­one had the great idea of build­ing a lit­tle caveat into the sys­tem. If the num­ber of items went into a neg­a­tive, the item would not be re-ordered and a prob­lem would be flagged. Some­how this would keep hap­pen­ing on stuff like sewing items, and since the store didn’t have any­one inves­ti­gat­ing the prob­lem items, entire aisles were full of empty shelves and pegs. Cus­tomers would come back time and time again ask­ing when we would get the items. We essen­tially looked like idiots when we told them we didn’t know.
    – Poor qual­ity mer­chan­dise. The worst by far was the shit ass Permatech/Eurotech line of small appli­ances. Sure they were cheaply priced, but even for $10 I would expect a toaster to work when I plugged it in. We saw the same garbage get returned over and over for years, but they kept sell­ing the junk.
    – Credit. These fuck­ers were mak­ing 30% of their profit on credit. You know, the kind of profit that requires peo­ple to be slow on their pay­ments so they can reap huge inter­est charges. Cashiers were hounded to push this on every­one, to the point that they were giv­ing long speils to cus­tomers like a Jeho­vas Wit­ness does at your front door if you don’t slam it on them first. Even worse, Zellers will­fully declined to use debit machines in their stores for fear that peo­ple would stop using thier credit cards. The finally made the switch some­time after 1997, likely due to cus­tomers leav­ing mer­chan­dise at the reg­is­ter and leav­ing in a huff, vow­ing to never shop at Zellers again.
    – Lack of staff. Did you know that in the 1960’s, Amer­i­can rail­road com­pa­nies tried to save money by defer­ring main­te­nance projects? The result was bad track with slow trains, and a mess that ended up cost­ing a for­tune to fix, unless of course, they went bank­rupt first as cus­tomers turned to trucks. Well, Zellers some­how though they could run stores with­out those pesky employ­ees gob­bling up their prof­its. A prime exam­ple of this was how they would let one employee be in charge of help­ing cus­tomers in a 30,000 square foot area on a Sun­day after­noon. Why did this hap­pen? Most times there was no one to cover lunches. Other staff had to aban­don ship at a sec­onds notice to open another cash reg­is­ter to reduce exor­bi­tantly long line­ups. Cashiers were get­ting lunch breaks at 2 and 3 in the after­noon “because it was just too busy”. They were made to feel that they were part of some sort of impor­tant strug­gle to help their com­rades sur­vive or some­thing. Cus­tomers in the mean­while were look­ing for help in the aisles, and nobody was there to give it. Once I was work­ing cash in such a sit­u­a­tion. An item didn’t scan or had a prob­lem (as was often the case) and the cus­tomer asked “why don’t you call the Hard­ware depart­ment?”. My response: “That’s because I AM the hard­ware depart­ment, and for that mat­ter, toys, house­wares and linens”.
    – Cheesy gim­micks. Zellers was a firm beleiver in this weird sort of 1950’s corny style of adver­tis­ing and pro­mo­tions. Instead of try­ing to sell cool stuff, they resorted to silly bal­loon drops, flashy fly­ers, Zeddy, and good old “Zellers Radio”. What was Zellers Radio, you ask? A stu­pid tape mes­sage that would play every 10 min­utes that usu­ally began with “Shh­h­h­haaaap­pers!!”. The ele­va­tor music they played was no bet­ter. The gro­cery store I worked at pre­vi­ously played some clas­sic pop music from the 70’s and 80’s. Still a bit lame, but not as bad as muzak. It seemed they did not want to devi­ate from the prac­tice of appeal­ing to the senior cit­i­zen crowd. The TV ads weren’t any bet­ter. For the longest time they were a tele­vised ver­sion of the weekly flyer. Later on they got some Hillary Duff clothes in their stores and man­aged to get some decent ads going. This did not last, and an ad cam­paign was launched with pur­ported Zellers employ­ees say­ing “we’re get­ting bet­ter and bet­ter”. Wow. Talk about admit­ting you suck. It’s like they were beg­ging peo­ple to give them a sec­ond chance, and for­give them for the shit ser­vice they gave them before.
    – Ridicu­lous poli­cies for shop­pers. Come on, if some­one isn’t sat­is­fied, give them their money back. Sure there is always some fucker try­ing to rip you off, but why treat every­one like crim­i­nals? Peo­ple usu­ally got store cred­its after get­ting the runaround and wait­ing in long line­ups. Super­vi­sors would tell their employ­ees to enforce these poli­cies until someon really lost it. What then? Give the cus­tomer what they wanted and make the employee look like a com­plete ass­hole in front of them. Seems these lit­tle Hitlers didn’t have the balls to enforce these poli­cies them­selves.
    – Clue­less upper man­age­ment. It seems that they only way these morons knew how to react was to fire peo­ple. It seemed like man­age­ment shuf­fles were hap­pen­ing con­stantly as some­one got the boot for under­per­form­ing. And do you know who didn’t get fired? Guys like the Regional Direc­tor of Stores who showed up on the front lines dur­ing a “Royal Visit” and yelled at peo­ple. Such a nice human being.
    – Panic at the sight of Wal­mart, but react­ing like a deer in the head­lights. Instead of try­ing to fig­ure out what makes Wal­mart a gen­er­ally bet­ter place to shop, Zellers instead tried to under­cut them on many items, and lost an arm and a leg in doing so. Wal­mart isn’t just about price. It was also about the “shop­ping expe­ri­ence” that Zellers never seemed to be able to fig­ure out. It seems the cheaper “solu­tion” to the Wal­mart ques­tion was usu­ally taken. Why make fun­da­men­tal changes to your stores when you can autho­rize a 10% cut in prices on ass-wipe?
    – Morn­ing meet­ings. The dreaded daily “pep talk” was noth­ing more than an attempt into per­form­ing bet­ter OR ELSE. What was dis­cussed? The weeks sales, which didn’t really reg­is­ter in most people’s minds, and a cou­ple of min­utes of bad­ger­ing employ­ees to get more credit card cus­tomers, and just gen­er­ally work harder if sales were sup­posed to get bet­ter. One time our store man­ager decided to go off on a rant about employee morale and how the employ­ees had only them­selves to blame for it. In his mind the skele­ton crew often appointed to run the place, should all work twice as hard to acheive the results of dou­ble the peo­ple. He couldn’t seem to under­stand why peo­ple were not moti­vated to shed blood, sweat and tears at min­i­mum wage.
    I left the com­pany fif­teen years ago. I had always won­dered if things had improved after I left, and after read­ing other people’s blogs posted since the announce­ment that Tar­get was acquir­ing Zellers leases, it was obvi­ous they had barely changed at all. It was eerie to read what employ­ees were say­ing about the com­pany as it was so famil­iar.
    Shame on you Zellers, and good rid­dance. It’s sad that the employ­ees of the com­pa­nies are the ones to suf­fer, while the upper man­age­ment folks will all leave with a huge chunk of change. Pathetic.

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