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How to Terminate your Rogers TV, Internet, Home Phone (and possibly Wireless) Contracts.. NOW

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I came across a very inter­est­ing post on Face­book by Al McGale that explains how you can get out of your  Rogers TV, Inter­net and Home Phone con­tracts with­out pay­ing ter­mi­na­tion fees. It depends on declin­ing changes to your terms, one of the old­est tricks in the book. But it’s always good to post it every now and then to remind peo­ple of how it can be done and I also really like how Al explained it.

Here is a direct link to the arti­cle on Face­book and just in case Rogers man­age to get it removed from Face­book I’ve pasted it below:

By Al McGale:

If you use Rogers ser­vices then you, like me, are likely hooked into a con­tract of some sort that ties you to their ser­vice for a cou­ple of years for the promises of deep dis­counts and extro­d­i­nary cus­tomer ser­vice.  It’s quite likely that you, like me, have been dis­ap­pointed by their cus­tomer ser­vice and are still wait­ing for these deep dis­counts (15% off of an over priced ser­vice is not a deal).

Well, today is your lucky day (and it was mine, too).

I received the fol­low­ing let­ter in the mail out­lin­ing changes to the fees that I pay for the ser­vices that Rogers provides;

Front Page
Back Page

The impor­tant part of this let­ter is that all of the fees asso­ci­ated with Rogers TV Pack­ages, Rogers Hi-Speed Inter­net, and Rogers Home Phone and Long Dis­tance have been increased.  Also worth not­ing is that in the fine print at the bot­tom of the page under 1 ..“The CRTC has estab­lished the Local Pro­gram­ming Improve­ment Fund (LPIF) to sub­si­dize TV sta­tions in mar­kets of less than 1 mil­lion peo­ple.  Rogers is required to pay 1.5% of our TV ser­vice rev­enues to this fund.  We pass this charge through to you.”..

Lately I’ve been unim­pressed with the large Cana­dian Telco’s any­way for try­ing to screw us with their Usage Based Billing (UBB) Inter­net scheme, so this was just what I needed to put me over the edge and call Rogers to see if they’ve bro­ken our con­tract, thus allow­ing me to can­cel the affected ser­vices.  As I expected I encoun­tered some pretty heafty resis­tance, but armed with the knowl­edge I gained hope­fully you can do the same much eas­ier if you need or want to.

First — the per­son that answers your phone call will not likely be able to help you.  Explain that you’d like to can­cel all of your ser­vices due to changes in the ser­vices, but you need to under­stand that they’re not trained on how to deal with Rogers break­ing their own con­tracts so take it easy on them.  Tell them that you’d like to speak with a Super­vi­sor, not because they’ve done some­thing wrong, but because this is an issue that they’re likely not trained to deal with (worked for me — I got a manager).

Back of Page 2 of the bill

When I got the man­ager on the phone she started talk­ing very quickly and got upset with me when I tried to inter­rupt her when I had ques­tions.  I explained to her that if I’m not allowed to ask ques­tions while she goes on with her explaina­tion, then I need her to talk slower so I can take notes and ask my ques­tions when she’s done.  She wasn’t very happy with my smartalec-ness, but I wasn’t happy with her try­ing to white­wash me with fast talk­ing and not allow­ing questions.

She explained that there are fee increases com­ing, and as per my con­tract with them, fee increases are accept­able based on the terms of ser­vice.  I told her that’s ludi­crous because if Rogers started charg­ing $1,000,000.99 / month for my home phone ser­vice that is not accept­able and not what I agreed to when I entered the con­tract.  She told me they wouldn’t do that, to which I replied it doesn’t mat­ter if you WOULD, the fact of the mat­ter is the con­tract does not allow you to with­out me hav­ing an option to opt out.  She then asked me to get out one of my bills (as I expected her to) and turn to page 2, point 15.

She read this to me very “As a mat­ter of fact“ly.

Ooh, what’s this!?

I told her to slow down and read that again.

If you do not accept a change to these terms, your sole rem­edy is to retain the exist­ing terms unchanged for the dura­tion of your com­mit­ment period.”

Really?!  I’ll take that option.  Don’t screw with my stuff.

That option isn’t avail­able sir.  The rate increases are coming.

So our con­tract is void.

Hold please.

hold music

Thank you for hold­ing.  Yes, sir.  You are able to can­cel your ser­vices with­out pay­ing any penalties.

Tada!  And once you shop around you’ll be amazed and how much you were get­ting scammed — I sure was!  And you’ve got 30 days to get some­thing else installed, so don’t delay!  Ditch’em.  They’re beg­ging for it.

If they give you a hard time, feel free to ref­er­ence ticket # I 364 368 858.  That’s the ticket where Joann (Man­ager) gave approval for me to can­cel my ser­vices with no penalties.

– Update on Feb 22, 2011

I’ve heard from many peo­ple that they’ve great suc­cess can­celling their ser­vices, but I’ve heard from oth­ers that they’re not being allowed to can­cel.  Talk to a super­vi­sor and don’t take no for an answer.  Accord­ing to their con­tract (point 15), they either allow you to con­tinue with your ser­vice under the exist­ing terms (fees and ser­vices) or they’ve bro­ken their con­tract, in which case you can can­cel with no penalty.  Make sure you get one or the other, and expect resistance!

– Update on Feb 23, 2011

I got a note today from some­one that is famil­iar with Ontario’s Con­sumer Pro­tec­tion Act.  In addi­tion to s15 in the Rogers con­tract our rights are fur­ther sup­ported and clearly defined by CPA 42.(2).2 within the Amend­ment, renewal or exten­sion in accor­dance with con­sumer agreement;

2. The agree­ment gives the con­sumer at least one of the fol­low­ing alter­na­tives to accept­ing the supplier’s pro­posal to amend, renew or extend:

i. ter­mi­nat­ing the agree­ment, or

ii. retain­ing the exist­ing agree­ment unchanged.

The above is only valid in Ontario, but there is likely some­thing sim­i­lar in other provinces too since it

makes good sense.  (If not, get on it)

Thanks for the tip, A.G.

– Update Feb 25, 2011

Wire­less cus­tomers!  Your lucky day has poten­tially arrived!

Peo­ple have been ask­ing me if it’s pos­si­ble to can­cel your wire­less plan with the changes I’ve high­lighted above.  I wasn’t sure with the above infor­ma­tion since it doens’t really affect your cell plans, but you could have argued that the only rea­son you had your cell with them was because of the bun­dle pric­ing, but I wasn’t sure if it would work so I didn’t want to get into it.

But on my most recent (and one of the last!) bill I received from Rogers there is a blurb about the cost of text mes­sages increas­ing as of March 16, 2011.  You can now use this infor­ma­tion to give them the choice of let­ting you out of your con­tract or hav­ing them not screw with the pric­ing of your ser­vices.  This change, since it’s directly affect­ing your wire­less plan (assum­ing you have text mes­sag­ing included in your plan (but who doesn’t?)), gives you an oppor­tu­nity to get out.  They might offer you some­thing dif­fer­ent to make up for this change, and if it pleases you then take it — but if you’re goal is quit­ting, don’t accept their “new” pro­posal — either it’s what you have today, or you quit.

Thanks again, Rogers.

48 Responses to “How to Terminate your Rogers TV, Internet, Home Phone (and possibly Wireless) Contracts.. NOW”

  1. Terry

    Your sole rem­edy is to ter­mi­nate” … that state­ment is some­what open. It does not indi­cate that you are not sub­ject to any penal­ties for can­celling. The way I read it is that, if you don’t agree to the terms, you can either keep your old rates or you can ter­mi­nate your con­tract. But it does not state that Rogers can­not charge you what­ever penal­ties might be assessed as a result of the termination.

    Thoughts?

  2. Jeremy Incogneto

    Hmmmm .… very inter­est­ing indeed, here’s my stick. Rogers has (sur­pris­ingly) been good to me, have not had an issue with them, how­ever their cov­er­age map for 3G in Atlantic Canada really sucks. I would love to see what Bell or Telus has to offer me in terms of con­tract, how­ever presently with my plan I have unlim­ited tex­ting, so en-turn I am not really affected by the price hike for text mes­sages. I am won­der­ing now if I would really be able to argue some­thing like that with a man­ager or if I would still be able to play the card that they are chang­ing my plan and I don’t want them to.

  3. mamasavesmoola

    Really inter­est­ing read!

    Terry, I see your point; they always try and get you in the details. I would, how­ever, argue that because Rogers can no longer meet the terms of the customer’s con­tract, the con­tract has been bro­ken by Rogers and not by the cus­tomer. No cus­tomer should have to pay the penalty for ‘the crime’ of dis­con­tin­u­ing an agree­ment that has already been broken.

  4. Mandolin

    Hmm so those of you who are shop­ping around what ser­vices do you use? I am in Que­bec and I find find­ing less expen­sive options for cable and inter­net quite chal­leng­ing. I would love to hear any advice as to which com­pany is best for tele­phone, inter­net, cable, cell ser­vice. I think vir­gin mobile is rea­son­able priced for cell ser­vices but the ser­vice is not good at my apart­ment. I have yet to find a good deal.…and I want to wait to learn about the legal­i­ties on inter­net usage billing.

  5. trendless

    I first heard about this kind of change-in-terms-equals-broken-contract sev­eral years ago when the US cell­cos changed their text mes­sage rates. I was under the impres­sion that we didn’t have any­thing sim­i­lar, coun­ter­in­tu­itive as it may seem (I remem­ber read­ing posts that explic­itly stat­ing you COULDN’T break your con­tract the same way in Canada). I’m glad to hear that at least Ontario has some­thing to pre­vent com­pa­nies from doing what­ever they want after you’ve signed on to a con­tract with them. Is any­one able to pro­vide info on whether any of the west­ern provinces (specif­i­cally BC, but I’d be inter­ested to know about AB as well) have some­thing similar?

  6. Tammy

    I dis­like Rogers as much as the next per­son .… same with Bell…but i find the prob­lem is where to take your busi­ness where they are any bet­ter. I tried Telus years ago but wasn’t any dif­fer­ent, they gave me a deal to switch and then raised their rates shortly after. Bell ended up giv­ing me a deal to come back so I did. Seems like there is a lack of good competition/services in Canada in this whole telecom­mu­ni­ca­tions area.
    So far my best solu­tion has been to refuse to put all my ser­vices with one car­rier no mat­ter how hard they try to talk me into lock­ing in all my busi­ness with them. That way I have a lit­tle bar­gain­ing power at least and so far I’ve got­ten Rogers and Bell to reduce my costs with­out los­ing ser­vice at all. Some­times you just have to ask and/or com­plain about the costs.
    Another sug­ges­tion to pass on with Bell is to ask to speak to the loy­alty depart­ment. When I got a small monthly bill reduc­tion deal with Bell and the agent messed up the changes, I called to com­plain and an agent from the loy­alty depart­ment actu­ally offered to give me free long dis­tance for LIFE to make up for the error…I had to ask the agent to repeat it because I didn’t believe that’s what she said but it was. Ever since my bills have a $0 charge for long dis­tance regard­less of the calls I make. (I think there was a max of 200 long dis­tance min­utes per month applied to this but I don’t use any­where near that in a month any­way.) Seems like they are all try­ing to keep your busi­ness and I think hav­ing only part of your busi­ness keeps them a bit more will­ing to keep you happy so you don’t bun­dle up with the competition.

  7. Jerry Hung

    I use Tek­Savvy for Inter­net & Land­line in Ontario

    Will can­cel Rogers TV once Free PVR is no longer offered ($30/month saved and maybe I can try Hulu/Netflix)

    and com­pany wire­less phone :P

  8. MUMason

    I am so mad at Rogers. I have an email with a con­fir­ma­tion# from Rogers out­lin­ing in detail my ser­vices I agreed to over the phone with them. My recent bill was triple the amount. Rogers will not honor their own agreement.

  9. anisa

    if you are good at get­ting rogers to reduce rates then there isn’t really a prob­lem. you get cheap rates with decent ser­vice and support.

    i have had the same rogers wire­less account for almost 7 yrs, and really haven’t found any­thing com­pa­ra­ble for the plan (and level of ser­vice and sup­port) i have, with any of their competitors.

    i just had my rogers vip cable reduced by 20%, plus got a free HD pvr and was told by them to call again after a year and they will be happy to work out another deal for me then as well.

    i would rather stay with the larger com­pa­nies that can offer more reli­able ser­vice, and just find ways to get them to give you the best rates. you get the best of both worlds.

    i’ve read too many bad sto­ries about ppl who have switched to the smaller com­pa­nies and been entirely unhappy with the service.

  10. kerry

    I never pay full price for cable,phone or internet.I threaten to switch to another provider,as I tell them about there com­peti­tors spe­cial offer.They have a spe­cial team that han­dles dissents,and they always offer to match,the price,the com­peti­tor is charging,if you will stay on with them..

  11. Hitech

    Thanks for shar­ing the info … need to get out of my Cell Phone con­tract. Switch over to Mobilic­ity or Wind … u get your money’s worth with their excel­lent fea­tures & can do away with your home phone too!!

  12. olivercat

    I have the rogers wire­less hub for the internet–it is not unlim­ited (use­age payments)-I have had it for almost a year with incred­i­bly good service–only once was there a glitch in the bill and the young man on the phone fixed it quickly (and hap­pily). I am very rural (no cable –bell even charges long dis­tance if I call accross the street). I had a satel­lite (exploret) inter­net for almost 5 years–with the last 3 being a night­mare! Bad ser­vice, no ser­vice, hor­ri­ble cus­tom­mer service–but even though break­ing the con­tract would have been nice, at the time there was no alter­na­tive. Because of the expe­ri­ences with inter­net service–my cell phones are both non contact–one is a pay as you go, the other is non con­tact billing. I just am get­ting tired of deal­ing with front­line oper­a­tors who are just read­ing from their com­puter screens –so if you can get other ser­vices in your area–great–but also con­sider no-contract services-sometimes the free stuff is not always worth it..

  13. totti182

    I am with rogers and I have had my prob­lems with them, but any­time I threaten to can­cel, they always tell me that I will have to repay every­thing I have got­ten free with them (incud­ing the first 3 months i got free and the money I save by bundling) i don’t really want to can­cel, but I am pretty annoyed with how much things cost with them… any ideas?

  14. Ann

    I agree with oliv­er­cat^. I have the 711 phone ‘Speak Out’ pay-as-you-go, and got a free phone just for buy­ing a $100 card back in Sept. It works great for my hus­band and I. I used to have a cell phone with Sears, and it was ter­ri­ble ser­vice, cus­tomer and phone range, and the price was $40 a month, for some­thing that we hardly ever used. Now I fig­ure we are pay­ing about $16 a month for 2 phones, and the ser­vice is excel­lent! Cus­tomer ser­vice is great also, for the only time that I had to call when I started the phone up. I really looked around before get­ting these phones, and think that if you look hard enough, the per­fect plan is out there for everyone.

  15. Mandy

    Another happy Tek­savvy cus­tomer over here for land­line and inter­net services.

  16. Caroline

    Tek­savvy is really not for every­body. As far as I know, they are using the Bell lines, so they are capped.
    If you live far from the cen­tral office, then you’re screwed. The speed will be awful.
    Thanks for the inter­est­ing post though. I am with Rogers as well, but I only have the Inter­net with them. Unfor­tu­nately, there is a real lack of com­pe­ti­tion in Canada, and even if I would like to switch, I don’t see where I would go to…

  17. Eric

    Here in Fred­er­ic­ton it seems our only options for TV, Inter­net, and home phone are Rogers or Aliant. Since I ABSOLUTELY refuse to work with Aliant, I don’t really have much choice.

  18. bruno mars fan

    excel­lent!! thanx for this!! i switched from bell to rogers and was hor­ri­fied, their ser­vice is sooooooooo slowwwwwwwwwwwww. can i keep my phone num­ber if i switch?

  19. blueai

    We had just called ROGERS.
    They told us that we can­not can­cel our plan with­out penalty even though they admit about #15.
    They said long-distance call and text mes­sages are charged on a per use basis.
    Pointed out that we are not using text mes­sag­ing or LD ser­vice from them much.
    Any suggestions??

  20. Al

    I absolutely hate peo­ple like this Al McGale. He doesn’t have a “trick” or any­thing, he was just very per­sis­tant and arro­gant and even­tu­ally Rogers fig­ures, heck, we don’t even need him, let’s send him off to our com­pe­ti­tion. We do the same trick in my line of work, as most cus­tomer ori­en­tated busi­ness do.

    The real­ity is Al entered a CONTRACT. If he’s unhappy with the ser­vice, most com­pa­nies will do what they can to help cus­tomers out, if the cus­tomer is will­ing to be rea­son­able. Al really sounds like a fool and was unwill­ing to nego­ti­ate, so he just pissed and moaned until he got what he wanted — basi­cally like a baby.

    Al is not the type of per­son any­one should emu­late or aspire to be like and I’m dis­ap­pointed a cool site like Smartcanucks.ca would even post his rantings.

  21. SulkyBlonde

    Im in a con­tract till June 30 2011 for my TV and land­line … Does any­one know if there is any­way to ter­mi­nate my con­tract ear­lier with Bell ? would appre­ci­ate the help if any­one does ? thanks :)

  22. yerallnuts

    Much of this reply applies to Que­bec and Ontario only, though there are likely sim­i­lar options avail­able in other provinces if you live in or close to an urban centre:

    I’ve been with Rogers for my cel­lu­lar ser­vice and I must say that loy­alty pays. My ser­vice costs are way below what the vast major­ity of peo­ple will pay and I have an amaz­ing plan — I got to this point because I nego­ti­ated one small dis­count or free new fea­ture after another over a period of years — what I get for my $22 is amaz­ing to say the least — accord­ing to my bill, the retail value of my plan is close to $100.

    Of course, as has been said, using President’s Choice, Seven-Eleven, Pertro Canada and such pre­paid ser­vices are THE least expen­sive way to go for occa­sional cell­phone users. Note that there are only two and a half national net­works (Sym­pa­tico, Rogers and the ‘half’, which is Telus) so cov­er­age from one provider is often the same as for the next.

    There are Cel­lu­lar alter­na­tives like Wind and such, but they suf­fer seri­ous cov­er­age limitations.

    For Sulky­Blode; June isn’t that far off. Unless they’ve vio­lated or tried to change some of the terms of your present deal you are not likely to be able can­cel with­out penalty.

    For Man­dolin and Car­o­line; For cable in Que­bec we are stuck with Videotron/Cogeco/VDN and such who still treat con­sumers as though they have a monop­oly. If you don’t watch much TV there’s always free ‘Over The Air’ (OTA) but if you want to watch the Food Net­work or SyFy that just won;t do.

    I am on Bell Satel­lite and was able to get a lot more ser­vice for my money than Videotron offered (though their billing is the most inac­cu­rate I’ve ever expe­ri­enced), of course there’s always Shaw — or, if you like liv­ing ‘dan­ger­ously’ and don’t mind giv­ing up Cana­dian com­mer­cials and con­tent, you can get a Dish or DirecTV sub­scrip­tion on the grey market.

    I ALWAYS rec­om­mend that clients main­tain a hard­line, rather than using VOIP or Cable tele­phony for their voice comms at home — in case of emer­gency and dur­ing power out­ages a wire­line phone con­tin­ues to work — depend­ing on where you live you may have alter­na­tives — Tek­savvy resells Bell wired tele­phony and charges rea­son­able rates. If you are run­ning DSL for your Inter­net, the higher cost for the wired (POTS) phone line is off­set by the fact you don;t have to pay for a ‘dry loop’.

    For Inter­net ser­vice, you have to know that there is a huge upris­ing against UBB these days. For $40/month Tek­savvy offers an uncapped ser­vice (though they were awfully quick to raise their rates when it looked like UBB was a done deal). A more humane alter­na­tive is Acanac who held off, funded some of the fight against UBB and at l east wouldn’t cut off your ser­vice if you hit their cap. They have an unlim­ited plan at about $35.

    Con­tact me for details.

  23. yerallnuts

    Much of this reply applies to Que­bec and Ontario only, though there are likely sim­i­lar options avail­able in other provinces if you live in or close to an urban centre:

    I’ve been with Rogers for my cel­lu­lar ser­vice and I must say that loy­alty pays. My ser­vice costs are way below what the vast major­ity of peo­ple will pay and I have an amaz­ing plan — I got to this point because I nego­ti­ated one small dis­count or free new fea­ture after another over a period of years — what I get for my $22 is amaz­ing to say the least — accord­ing to my bill, the retail value of my plan is close to $100.

    Of course, as has been said, using President’s Choice, Seven-Eleven, Pertro Canada and such pre­paid ser­vices are THE least expen­sive way to go for occa­sional cell­phone users. Note that there are only two and a half national net­works (Sym­pa­tico, Rogers and the ‘half’, which is Telus) so cov­er­age from one provider is often the same as for the next.

    There are Cel­lu­lar alter­na­tives like Wind and such, but they suf­fer seri­ous cov­er­age limitations.

    For Sulky­Blonde; June isn’t that far off. Unless they’ve vio­lated or tried to change some of the terms of your present deal you are not likely to be able can­cel with­out penalty.

    For Man­dolin and Car­o­line; For cable in Que­bec we are stuck with Videotron/Cogeco/VDN and such who still treat con­sumers as though they have a monop­oly. If you don’t watch much TV there’s always free ‘Over The Air’ (OTA) but if you want to watch the Food Net­work or SyFy that just won;t do.

    I am on Bell Satel­lite and was able to get a lot more ser­vice for my money than Videotron offered (though their billing is the most inac­cu­rate I’ve ever expe­ri­enced), of course there’s always Shaw — or, if you like liv­ing ‘dan­ger­ously’ and don’t mind giv­ing up Cana­dian com­mer­cials and con­tent, you can get a Dish or DirecTV sub­scrip­tion on the grey market.

    I ALWAYS rec­om­mend that clients main­tain a hard­line, rather than using VOIP or Cable tele­phony for their voice comms at home — in case of emer­gency and dur­ing power out­ages a wire­line phone con­tin­ues to work — depend­ing on where you live you may have alter­na­tives — Tek­savvy resells Bell wired tele­phony and charges rea­son­able rates. If you are run­ning DSL for your Inter­net, the higher cost for the wired (POTS) phone line is off­set by the fact you don;t have to pay for a ‘dry loop’.

    For Inter­net ser­vice, you have to know that there is a huge upris­ing against UBB these days. For $40/month Tek­savvy offers an uncapped ser­vice (though they were awfully quick to raise their rates when it looked like UBB was a done deal). A more humane alter­na­tive is Acanac who held off, funded some of the fight against UBB and at l east wouldn’t cut off your ser­vice if you hit their cap. They have an unlim­ited plan at about $35.

    Con­tact me for details.

  24. Jenn P.

    I appre­ci­ate any­one that has dif­fi­culty with a large ser­vice provider or retailer. I under­stand and I’ve had them myself. But I haven’t had a sin­gle prob­lem with Rogers and I’ve had my cell ser­vice with them for over 9 years. On the other hand, I used to have Bell home phone, TV and Inter­net until about 5 years ago when they screwed my fam­ily large — Rogers ever since. I know some peo­ple have the same prob­lem, but reverse and I don’t know if it’s a bad com­pany or a bad cus­tomer ser­vice agent — we’ve all had the good and the bad right?

    The com­pany I work for has Bell inter­net — ultra high speed, we pay $116 per month for it(!!) and we get down­load speeds of 1.3mbps, no where NEAR the 8 mbps we’re told. We’re in the process of get­ting a rocket hub for the office (there’s 3 of us in total, so it’s good) for a heck of a lot cheaper. I spoke to Bell’s VP Sat­is­fac­tion line and they said they couldn’t so any­thing about our ser­vice and said “here’s a phone num­ber to can­cel”. Didn’t even care to try and keep the busi­ness… so, was that the com­pany talk­ing or the cus­tomer ser­vice rep?

    I’m hav­ing a bit of a hard time dif­fer­en­ti­at­ing from bad com­pany to bad cus­tomer ser­vice rep. Of course, it depends on your sit­u­a­tion — it could also be bad services.

    To each their own, and with more com­pe­ti­tion I’m sure we’ll see increases in all of the above.

  25. Sandra5

    My hus­band is more tech­ni­cally savvy than me so we decided he is the one who arranges the house­hold cable, tele­phone, inter­net etc. We have TV and phone from Rogers and inter­net from Tek­savvy. He says that when deal­ing with Rogers it depends some­what with whichever rep you are deal­ing with at the moment –the mes­sage being that if the rep you are deal­ing with won’t do some­thing you want, try again for a dif­fer­ent rep. I can hear him on the phone some­times really seem­ing to spend a lot of time nego­ti­at­ing for the best con­di­tions.
    The more he is will­ing to insist and hag­gle and nego­ti­ate with Rogers, it seems the bet­ter the deal he gets. It takes a lot of time and patience on his part.
    It seems that it shouldn’t be this way should it? Oper­at­ing in a clear and straight-forward way, the same deal for every­one, makes more sense to me. But it seems to be the way Rogers oper­ates and they have an army of employ­ees to sup­port this sys­tem. (Oh BTW, Bell seems to oper­ate this way too!)

  26. cheerydeer

    I am with rogers for over 7 years and I never had prob­lems with them. Thank Al McGale for your tricks. But I have no inter­est to read them.

  27. atozcomp

    some­times you can’t make any­one change things for you.
    just have to change the your­self.
    I was in a con­tract for years with telus.
    then it ended and I was month to month.
    the price went $10 up because I wasn’t under con­tract for caller id.
    PLUS they were still charg­ing me for access fees.
    some­thing oth­ers did not do.
    I phoend them and emailed them let­ting them know,
    either get me a cheaper plan or I’m gone.

    I had one reply over the phone and the rep tried get­ting me on a more expen­sive plan in another con­tract!! didn’t even address my concerns.

    So f**k them I was out!
    Then I get and intro rate with no con­tract from fido plus a phone!
    even though they are owned by rogers there is no rea­son that com­pa­nies should own you! with­out us there is no rogers!

  28. maurice

    Notice the pat­tern of the post­ings here?
    First the info on the bro­ken con­tracts and relief, then a few days later a flurry of mes­sages say­ing how Rogers was so good and that this guy is a jerk.
    Hmm, they all like Rogers, they all think Al is a dork.

    I smell Shills.

  29. Shawn Daley

    I was on the phone with Rogers over a 6 hour period today, went to 3 Rogers Plus Stores (every­one I spoke to had a dif­fer­ent rea­son why they couldn’t help me — I sim­ply wanted a new phone) and threat­ened to can­cel, but alas it was to no avail.

    Until now.

    THANK YOU.

  30. cj

    @Terry: It doesn’t say ‘your sole rem­edy is to ter­mi­nate’, it said ‘your sole rem­edy is to retain the exist­ing terms’, which is pre­cisely what rogers doesn’t want thus they will allow you, after runaround, to ter­mi­nate with no penal­ties. They are break­ing their own con­tract when they raise fees.

  31. amestp

    I called and they told me they are replac­ing the sys­tem access fee and 911 by the Gov­ern­ment recu­per­a­tion fee (not sure of the exact term in Eng­lish) which should be around 3$ so it will be less than the fees I’m pay­ing right now.

    There was noth­ing spec­i­fy­ing the fees or explain­ing the details of the changes any­where… but for some rea­son I doubt it will be less than what I’m pay­ing now… Will see on the next bill I guess.

  32. Sherry

    I used to do cus­tomer ser­vice for an Amer­i­can mobile phone com­pany. The rules in the USA regard­ing mobile ser­vices really should be adopted here in Canada across the board for all provinces and territories.

    For exam­ple:

    When chang­ing the price of a fea­ture like text mes­sag­ing, if it is a per use basis change the provider has to notify you and give you the option to can­cel with­out penalty — and that option is a lim­ited time offer (I believe it is a 90 day win­dow). You would have a cer­tain amount of days to do that after the notice before the com­pany assumes you agree with the price hike. When it comes to actual plans — com­pa­nies are not sup­posed to increase your rate plan unless YOU make a change to it. For exam­ple if you have an optional fea­ture for unlim­ited text mes­sag­ing for $9.99 and then go off of it to a smaller pack­age and then when you want to switch back to unlim­ited mes­sag­ing the pack­age is more expen­sive at $14.99 due to a price increase — that is con­sid­ered accept­able. How­ever, it is also a require­ment for the com­pany to notify their cus­tomers with bill inserts about price changes to fea­tures even if they are only hit with those price changes when they want to change them.

    The issue for con­sumers is that most of us don’t read bill inserts so when mak­ing choices to change our plans we aren’t being edu­cated by cus­tomer ser­vice about pos­si­ble price increase when want­ing to switch back to pre­vi­ous plans. I know from expe­ri­ence that cus­tomer ser­vice reps in the Amer­i­can com­pa­nies get noti­fied approx­i­mately two weeks to a month prior to price changes to fea­tures in prepa­ra­tion for those who will want to end their con­tract due to the price changes. This ensures that cus­tomer ser­vice can notify their cus­tomers of these changes and help con­sumers make informed deci­sions about whether or not it is worth it to change their plans.

    Also in the USA ALL mobile inter­net plans are unlim­ited for $19.99 — $29.99 per month, (this depends on the type of phone)surely Cana­di­ans deserve sim­i­lar pric­ing to our neigh­bors. Most of us would be will­ing to pay slightly more (due to lower pop­u­la­tion) for those ser­vices to be unlim­ited but large com­pa­nies here in Canada do not wish to be com­pet­i­tive and grow their company’s net­work. In the States com­pa­nies are con­stantly invest­ing in their net­works to make them larger and update the tech­nolo­gies and bandwidth.

    Why are our com­pa­nies so bloody lazy?

  33. Sandra

    I wish there was some­thing like this so I could can­cel my ADT secu­rity ser­vice and avoid the 1300$ fee. EEKS!!!

  34. Lisa gloria

    Rogers
    They wiped out my 3500 MB, remain­ing at the end of the month, on my iPad, but they are mine,
    I paid for them,
    How can they?

    I want to quit.
    How?
    last night, I was 57 min­utes on my tele­phone, then the girl from Rogers said, the can­cel depart­ment is closed now.
    Call again tomorrow!

  35. hellokitty

    :< <== wishes we had amer­i­can inter­net, they got bet­ter rates then us, were stuck with either bell/roger crap..

  36. Donhaterogers

    Look­ing to can­cel with the Rogers/Bell con­glom­er­ate, they have not lived up to expec­ta­tions nor aree they pro­vid­ing con­sis­tent ser­vices. While on line to their “cus­tomer ser­vice” for inter­net speed prob­lems, I was told to go to a site, down­load an engine that would give me the speed of my inter­net con­nec­tion, then to read back the num­bers on the speed. When I started the num­ber was 85bps, as we were talk­ing this num­ber started count­ing down! As we talked the num­ber was now 18bps, I was told that this was nor­mal!!! The time of this call was 1:32 am EST! there was no forth­com­ing answer as to why this was hap­pen­ing at this time of day, and I was pay­ing for their “Extreme” inter­net ser­vice. It was tak­ing up to 3minutes to down­load a very small file. This is not good ser­vice in any way shape or form. I am can­celling to go to an exclu­sive inter­net ser­vice, Tek­Savy, for home phone, Inter­net and TV.
    Maybe now I will be treated more as a per­son than just a REMOTE Num­bered Account!
    Yeh, I know, wish­ful think­ing. Any­thing has to be bet­ter than the Rogers/Bell alliance.
    By the way, has any­body noticed that Bell has taken over broad­cast­ing of CTV? a Cana­dian Insti­tu­tion? C(Candian)T(Television)V(Vision)
    CITY TV is now run by Bell as well, how long before we see the:
    ROGERS-BELL Cen­ter in TO? or maybe BELL-Rogers Cen­ter. Damn them it is not even spelled Cana­dian, it should be centRE!!

  37. HAPPY Ex Rogers Customer

    CONFIRMED.….…… WORKED LIKE A CHARM word for word just like it was above must be done within 30 day of the notice of rate or ser­vice changes !!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Hello TekkSAVVY

  38. Mike

    I just got off the phone with Rogers and they say that since my basic cable is locked in for 2 years at 15.99 I have to pay it. They won’t look up that ref­er­ence num­ber and the super­vi­sor wouldn’t lis­ten (shock­ing). The 16 dol­lar sav­ing is great but all the other tv ser­vices are going up over 40 bucks.

    I want out … any ideas would be awesome …

  39. richard 1960

    What is and I don’t get it: 2 par­ties are mak­ing a deal– a con­tract. One party try change it and is allowed to do it with­out any dis­com­fort. The other is penal­ized. It is the time for Gov to step in and make manda­tory can­cel­la­tion all ridicu­lous– fraud­u­lent, cheated cos­tumer con­tracts. If Com­pany want change a deal– MUST DEAL WITH ALL CUSTOMERS AGAIN. Can­cell all con­tracts and get cus­tomers back. Call them home, and tell them– con­tract is Null– Void. No more ser­vice. Then give them new offer.

  40. Gia1967

    I have been with Rogers since July 2010 I have cable, inter­net and three blackberry’s, one for myself and my two kids. My monthly bill aver­ages in total about 500.00 to 800.00 a month and every time I call them they never can explain why. I added inter­na­tional txt mes­sag­ing on my plan and then they bill me for inter­na­tional text mes­sages. Since July I have got a total of 27 hours on the phone with Rogers try­ing to get answers. Most of the time I can’t under­stand half of what they are say­ing and when I can under­stand them they seem to be very rude. This type of ser­vice would not fly in the United States. I was with Ver­i­zon for 12 years and NEVER had a prob­lem. All I want to do is can­cel my ser­vice with Rogers and get away from them once and for all. HELP!!!

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